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RayanOO

Lazy is the way
madara used him not getting to be hokage lmao
Madara resenting not being Hokage is his own problem
The Uchiha could have still be part of the village peacefully and they accepted it

Only Madara was a bitch about it


And Obito used Rin getting fisted
Obito also didn’t have luck being manipulated by Madara and groomed to be like that

That doesn’t mean Uchiha should have been ostracized inside Konoha

The stronger the bonds with the village the better for Konoha and less chance of revolt / coup
 
Again, blaming Tobirama for something Madara caused

Answer this, when did the Uchiha truly become public enemy number one?

It was after the 9 Tails attack. Who caused that attack to happen? Obito, right?

Who gave Obito the orders to carry out said attack? Madara.

The Uchiha aren’t pushed to the outskirts and ostracized if the 9 Tails attack doesn’t happen

Everything that led to the genocide is Madara’s fault
The Uchiha were already discriminated against by the time Obito released the 9 tails

You’re ignoring what were told to create your own head canon lol
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I smelled the Tobirama slander so i returned to end it :endthis:
Stfu
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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If many of his policies had catastrophic effects on current story, kishi shoulda expanded and explained them. I don't care about orochimaru mouthing off trying to shift blame
He should’ve but he didn’t. Kishi instead let us with that unquestioned knowledge.


Orochimaru is an unreliable narrator
If he was, someone would’ve corrected him. Or kishi would’ve made this apparent at some point post-this interaction, it it really wasn’t true. Instead nobody questions it, not Hiruzen who had to live through Tobirama’s legacy.


How the fuck can't you sense sarcasm there?
Are you trying to say the guy obsessed with ninjutsu isn’t a big fan of the Kage known for inventing high level ninjutsu? Come on lmfao this is such cope
 
His policies led to a genocide lmao
It did not.
.he gave the Uchiha what they wanted

Power and authority over the other clans in the form of being the police force

Their own district same as the hyuuga.

The person whom even implied that the nineties fox had anything to do with the Uchiha was danzo. Otherwise the Uchiha were fine
 
These are Kishi’s words, they’re not refuted and they’re the only report we have of Tobirama’s tenure as Kage lol.
They’re not Kishimoto’s words it’s Orochimaru’s opinion on Tobirama’s reign. If you were to ask 10 people about their opinion on X president they would all give you a different answer


Edo Tensei, a jutsu that requires a living person to die and the caster to grave rob the summoned dead? Yeah Tobirama can take credit for that, it’s not like the atom bomb where there were multiple people who could’ve done—no one is making Edo Tensei but Tobirama
Is Tobirama the one that used Edo Tensei to destroy the world? No? Then why does he shoulder the blame?

Edo Tensei was forbidden and Orochimaru decided to dig it up. Why didn’t Hiruzen stop his student from learning it?
 
Yeah,I wouldn't shit on Tobirama either necessarily, making sure that clans used to all hate eachother would come together in one village isn't exactly easy, and old feuds coming up again could cause a lot of problems, I think it makes sense he was worried about the uchiha clan because of Madara, though he obviously had his bigotries.
Tobirama was in no way bigoted, he led the village using brains over emotions
The Uchiha are a cursed clan by blood, their ocular powers being the proof of it. Hiruzen was a piss poor hokage which is why the more ruthless Danzo did what he wanted. Everyone sane knows Tobirama is the one who built the shinobi world
 
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