Spoiler One Piece Chapter 987 Spoilers Discussion

[SDfear]

Are you high?

No

 

[Igor_akainu_redog]

Kaido really went from 1 shotting luffy and splitting the heavens with big mom to getting penetrated by kinemon

KINEMON

And makes sense, luffy couldnt use Ryou so he couldnt hurt kaido, BM was facing kaido paying attention on her so he could bloco ALL her atacks, but here ryou that can hurt ANYONE was used on a kaido caught by surprise.

REALLY nothing absurd at ALL

 

[Buusatan94]

Sometimes Oda makes me really cringed or scared with his writing choices.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Good luck with that.

Good luck with what?
Luffy himself admitted his Haki is ass when he got bit by Luffy while Kinnemon is a trained CoA veteran who knows Ryou just like Zoro.
Obviously Luffy was a sub par CoA user up until Udon training, he admitted it himself.

 

[NeutralWatcher]

well thats the thing neutral
his hype was about him being unkillable/durability monster. he doesnt look like much rn . and yes if kaido bleeds like a normal human being, I was right about how strong he was all along.

I see it is what it takes to make Kaido bleed. It took 9 scabbards with ryuo to make him bleed. Ashura Doji is definitely the strongest scabbard. Followed by Denjiro, Nekomamushi and Inuarashi. I think they're around YC3. Ashura and Denjiro might be YC2 but who knows.

I think Oda doesn't plan to make yonko as individual who can solo some YC3 and YC2.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I see it is what it takes to make Kaido bleed. It took 9 scabbards with ryuo to make him bleed. Ashura Doji is definitely the strongest scabbard. Followed by Denjiro, Nekomamushi and Inuarashi. I think they're around YC3. Ashura and Denjiro might be YC2 but who knows.

I think Oda doesn't plan to make yonko as individual who can solo some YC3 and YC2.

technically just one attack for okiku to make him bleed.

 

[KINGKONGGUN15]

Kaido really went from 1 shotting luffy and splitting the heavens with big mom to getting penetrated by kinemon

KINEMON

so? ryou is the strongest form of haki. it would hurt almost any charachter imo. kaido was only scraped by the attack. youre acting like kinemon beheaded kaido

 

[Ulti]

i aint even gonna defend this chapter cuz if an admiral got penetrated by kinemon i woulda made 50 threads talking shitt until Van personally escorted me to Udon

Extreme diff with Morley >>>>>> getting stabed by Kinemon

 

[Master OF Haki]

yeah will power = strength in most cases. Even Haki's English translation is Will Power I think.... but in this case you are right...After thinking that his crew is dead he should have done better going by Oda's usual concept ( Will Power = Strength)

That's what I'm talking about, I was explaining haki concept to people telling the same thing about haki that Willpower=haki but that's only when the character is strong or has a great potential in strength.

 

[NeutralWatcher]

Durability = /= hardness
Hardness for cutting/piercing attacks
Jozu > Roger in hardness (without Armament, Jozu with his diamond form)
Roger > Jozu in durability and hardness (with Armament)
Even probably, Roger > Jozu in durability (without Armament and Jozu with diamon form, against non piercing/cutting attacks, against quakes from Shirohige let's say for example)

Kaido has both too, high hardness and durability without Haki. So, this chapter makes no sense.

I think Roger's speciality is using his CoA to coat his sword with haki/to attack.

Pica and Vergo use CoA as for defense (fullbody CoA). There are many application of using CoA imo.

 

[Buusatan94]

Let's see how long it will last til the tides go in the other way with Kaido and the Calamities showing the true power of their Zoans.

 

[Red Admiral]

my top 5 after this chapter:
1. kaido
2. shanks
3. big mom
4. blackbeard
5. akainu (shot up like 2 places lmao)

what changed ?

 

[mly90]

People still thinking the raid will fail? Lol

Lol we're even getting Full Moon here

there is too much stake for the raid to fail imo maybe they will have small temporary setbacks but nothing more with the advantage switching between the two sides continuously

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

fujitora fights sabo and other commanders in revo
gets a bandage over his head.
not a durability monster. he's human too
yall keep the same energy lmao

 

[Zara]

to the ppl quoting me about kinemon’s ryou and luffy not having that

then why did kinemon beg a bunch of pirates who dont have ryou if he could brrr brrr kaido on his own

 

[Jo_Ndule]

one thing for sure, Kinnemon pushes King to extrême diff
Better haki and can cut fire.

"King is the strongest, king will beat Izo or beat x" he doesn't even appear in the chaoter
Useless background character.

Just a reminder, retainers wouldn't land this strike on Katakuri, too predictable to dodge or block

Kaido is crazy to never using CoA. When will this dumb dude coat himself with CoA

He's so sure of himself that blades and blows can't hurt his skin... Oda said "nope, ptsd and nakama power will make Kiku pierce your hand even"

BM CoA usage>Kaido who hasn't coated himself yet
Kaido >= BM in AP and physical strength
BM > Kaido in durability
Kaido >= BM in endurance
BM with Zeus ~ dragon Kaido in movement speed
Kaido recovers faster too.

 

[ivaannom]

Finished the translation. Yeah, it was a good chapter to start the war

 

[HA001]

to the ppl quoting me about kinemon’s ryou and luffy not having that

then why did kinemon beg a bunch of pirates who dont have ryou if he could brrr brrr kaido on his own

Cause he saw zoro

 

[ShishioIsBack]

so? ryou is the strongest form of haki. it would hurt almost any charachter imo. kaido was only scraped by the attack. youre acting like kinemon beheaded kaido

You know Ryou literally means just flow of Haki and Zoro has been using Ryou since beginning of post TS?
Coating any weapon is form of Ryou.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

another reminder akainu made multiple yc characters run away
hint: bb and his crew