[FNZ] Role Madness Overlord Mafia Game Thread

[hime]

I say this because I've been sitting on secret tinfoil that Soul may have been scum with a fake town flip. There is absolutely nothing i can point to to evidence this but it is a gut feeling I had from how he was posting when he was the likely lynch candidate. Now, because it's pretty much baseless as far as evidence goes, I'm making no attempt to argue it should be considered as part of any wider conclusions.

this is terrible tbh
i dont believe u actually believe this is a possibility

in what world would scum execute themselves?


i think u r just sowing the seeds of paranoia

 

[Ultra]

@Ratchet u indi?

 

[Ultra]

this is terrible tbh
i dont believe u actually believe this is a possibility

in what world would scum execute themselves?


i think u r just sowing the seeds of paranoia

What if he's survivor and saying this shit in hopes he won't be bothered

 

[Hayumi]

It's ok, everyone makes mistakes. I'm sure it's just an innocent coincidence that you got refilled and buffed and have nothing to show for it.

I’m confused lol, what would be the benefit in that? Unless you’re saying me and Flower are scheming a mastermind plan?

 

[Ultra]

I’m confused lol, what would be the benefit in that? Unless you’re saying me and Flower are scheming a mastermind plan?

The implication is that you could lie by omission to attract refills and fill up your scum goodie bag instead

 

[hime]

What if he's survivor and saying this shit in hopes he won't be bothered

id have expected him to act more like this last day then considering he claimed shot at np1
not sure where all of these wild theories r sprouting from today

 

[hime]

One thing that bothered me about Ekko that I didn't voice was that the Flower kill didn't feel like something he would do as town. That said, I think there was some element of genuine hunting to his reads, it's just that his reads lacked the extra consideration one would expect of a townie. Which is to say, I'm not in favour of blanket throwing out everything he said because he wasn't town.

I say this because I've been sitting on secret tinfoil that Soul may have been scum with a fake town flip. There is absolutely nothing i can point to to evidence this but it is a gut feeling I had from how he was posting when he was the likely lynch candidate. Now, because it's pretty much baseless as far as evidence goes, I'm making no attempt to argue it should be considered as part of any wider conclusions.

btw, idk how i feel abt these 2 posts in general tbh
ive never seen ratchet pull out these "retroactive solving" type posts
tho maybe thats not the right word for it

it just feels really awkward like ur going back and trying to make sure ur bases r covered ig

 

[hime]

btw, idk how i feel abt these 2 posts in general tbh
ive never seen ratchet pull out these "retroactive solving" type posts
tho maybe thats not the right word for it

it just feels really awkward like ur going back and trying to make sure ur bases r covered ig

thoughts? @Ultra

 

[hime]

actually yknow what Vote Lynch Ratchet

wouldnt mind a claim
if its really all that clearing then he should be fine

 

[Orwellian]

Ratchet is making a mile out of an inch complaining about Ultra, but regardless, Worst should go.

Vote Lynch Worst

 

[Yoho]

actually yknow what Vote Lynch Ratchet

wouldnt mind a claim
if its really all that clearing then he should be fine

I agree we should get a claim from @Ratchet but I think Lynch wise we should stick to worst, Ratchet is lower priority right now imo

 

[Hayumi]

The implication is that you could lie by omission to attract refills and fill up your scum goodie bag instead

How was I suppose to know Flower, who I was sussing last dp and also voted for mind you was going to magically have a refill even available to give to me like huh.

 

[Hayumi]

For those sussing Ratchet what’s the mechanical explanation for the claimed kill on them? You just think it was a failed kill on someone else or what?

 

[Ultra]

For those sussing Ratchet what’s the mechanical explanation for the claimed kill on them? You just think it was a failed kill on someone else or what?

your mom

 

[Ultra]

Working with too many unknown variables to assume he 100%% ate the faction kill, though it's the best piece of evidence in his favor

 

[Ultra]

thoughts? @Ultra

I say let him cook

 

[Ultra]

How was I suppose to know Flower, who I was sussing last dp and also voted for mind you was going to magically have a refill even available to give to me like huh.

You kinda had a conversation with her about it.

Was that super kill funded by Charles too

 

[Michelle]

Something like Worst/Crying/Lethal + 2?
idk how many wolves should be but probably 5?

 

[Ultra]

Can I call Flower frozen at 750 posts because she feels frozen

 

[Michelle]

Spoiler

flower/worst r my prio pushes rn, worst is basically outed for that last vote on soul b4 the execute, flower is semi-outed from my PoV

the rest is just about how much i can distinguish bad town player from actual scum, my poe is something along the lines of:
boq, crying, lanji and mayeb mango

i dont have a read on polar, i think orca is town, dont have a read on the rest of poe basically. they r nullish. yo tan is probably town

my town reads mostly remain unchanged: you, pero, ratchet (kinda idk anymore but still feels like an inactive town), charlie 2.0, jag

york is probably town but not confident on it. hime can be town or GF if hayumi's mech is to be believed. hayumi im weak town lean on

ultra i dont like his entrance but i'll let see where he goes with his current readback

thats about everything

ive been informed that some condition occurred and my wish is now unlocked cuz ??? visited me

this kiku role lads?

@Peroroncino gonna summon the flavor enthusiasts. does my character unlock a wish when someone visits him? does that someone fit as town or mafia?

also wat we wishing for lads, its usable day or night. im not allowed to wish for kills cuz i got plenty as is

rachet flower hayumi yoho smoke charlie ultra york town

stargate ekko worst orwellian wolf

just off the top of my head

um

i'll just copy/paste my mech notes i have so far

mech so far


Charlie got modkilled for releasing a message he intercepted that claims to be the cult leader asking to recruit sk. sk claims he didn't get a message and flipped town

D1 day ended early. top wagons were ekko, ali, orca (need to double check)

mango michelle or Orwellian have double votes

D2 ekko claims to have shot at flower and to be shot at but has enough hp to survive it and has a passive that notifies him of it. flower claims to have used an os-shield. she wasn't informed about a kill so she says ekko is lying. flower says they get informed if a kill happens

D2 ratchet claims to be hit with a kill N1 and knows this due to a passive

D1 Charlie 2.0 claims to have redirections. D2 clarified that it redirects to a random person and they used it on letha/am N1

D2 yoho claims to watch ekko N1 and that hayumi, orca, lanji, and worst visited ekko. In a later post they say Fuji told them York also visited

D2 Orwellian claims to be poisoned

D2 York claimed to RB Ekko N1 (but did not show up as visiting ekko by yoho until it was corrected)

D2 Flower claims poison healer

D2 ekko claims to be ains lv100 and that the only kills that could hit him are factional kills or lv80+. he has a bunch of killing abilities and cool passives he says

Orca claims to use an ability on ekko N1 that lets him see his health. this made Orca think ekko was GF D2 and was openly outing it

N1 Hayumi did a 1 shot difference check on hime and ekko and got that their alignments are compatible

Ekko claimed broken Town role.
Hayumi says hime and ekko share alignment.
York claimed she roleblocked Ekko.
Yoho claimed like 4 people other than him visited Ekko.
Flower refilled Hayumi.
I claimed 2/3 of my role for no good reason.

Maybe there's more, i'm not caught up myself. Also Lethal filled for AM and i think haven't posted. Ultra subbed for Alexis and is currently cooking it seems.

2- Yoho
6- Peroroncino
17- Michelle
19- Jaguark101
20- Yo Tan Wa


5- Ratchet
10- The Orca
18- Hayumi
25- Mr. Reloaded Replaced by Charlie


7- Stargate18
12- Ali v2 Replaced by Orwellian
13- Polar Bear
22- Alwaysmind


14- MangoSenpai
16- York
21- Crying bc no Cryo
24- hime


3- LANJI CUCKSMOKE
4- Red Night Replaced by Boquise


1- Flower
8- Random Asshole Replaced by @Worst
11- Alexis2282AE/Ultra


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probably 1 in the yellow, 1-2 in the orange and 2-3 in the red

gl sorting out the nulls or finding deep wolves in the weak towns (blues)

and do not touch the greens

peace friends, town in this site is too booty to waste more time on, i'll be satisfied if my solve is 70-80% correct, gg ez no re

they wont, you're not dealing with a stupid mafia team. a good player is at the wheels and its in flower/ultra. neither will poison fang

just trust what i say

This is what @Charlie informed me of

No I am not

Flower
LANJI CUCKSMOKE
hime
The Orca
Michelle
Peroroncino
Crying bc no Cryo

Dofla
Orwellian

Hayumi
Yoho
York

Boquise
Stargate18
Jaguark101
Yo Tan Wa
LethalBanks
Charlie

Worst
Polar Bear
Ratchet

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Here are my reads at the moment.

Moved Ratchet down because I find myself largely in agreement with Hime and his solve right now comes across as a bit...hollow, for lack of a better word.

Gray pile is null but would be fine with resolving basically anyone in there, with priority to less active slots like Lethal over Charlie

Hayumi and Yoho are leaning town because of their claims but I'm putting them in purple because I think there's some capacity for one to be tricking town, just a hunch here. York is here on account of realizing the fact that targeting Ekko makes a good deal of sense as scum roleblocker, but I'd flip Worst first.

I'm making the call that Aurelian is town but let him expire anyway

I agree to be honest, feels a bit tame for him too. Would say he is unlikely scum with Flower imo.

@Hayumi who'd u use your second shot of parity cop on?

Why are Dofla and Aurelian so high? Yoho can easily be scum too. The bottom list can all go. Like why is it only me capable of noticing that our lists are probably nearly identical - if I were to tier them, with the exception of a handful of slots that should be within margin for error, but you tell me my solve is shit? Almost all of your town reads are reads I came to before you were even in the game. It's just so shit, like the complete lack of thought that goes into some of your posts Ultra is embarrassing to be honest.

Just to illustrate my point for those of you for whom words are too difficult:
I would move Crying and Hime out of here. Crying down to the tier below.
No idea why these two are so high.
I would move Hayumi and York up, Yoho can stay there.
I would move Boq up and probably slot hime in here somewhere. Otherwise as presented.
I would move Lethal and Aurelian into here.

So that means that, for a tier placement perspective, the only significant difference is hime and Aurelian are much lower for mine. So this genius is essentially arguing that my PoE is "hollow.... for lack of a better word" on the basis that two slots we a in clear disagreement on.

I don't mind this post. Maybe Star can move up a tier.

I say this because I've been sitting on secret tinfoil that Soul may have been scum with a fake town flip. There is absolutely nothing i can point to to evidence this but it is a gut feeling I had from how he was posting when he was the likely lynch candidate. Now, because it's pretty much baseless as far as evidence goes, I'm making no attempt to argue it should be considered as part of any wider conclusions. But I do think focusing on this message is a flawed angle because I don't see anyone in the game aside from hime and Flower thinking to try something like that.

Flower I think is town based on how she responded to Ekko yesterday. Hime I think had a pretty lame reaction to my suggestion that she could be behind this, that was to be outraged at the mere suggestion of it, so I think it's not impossible, but when I consider the wider game, and even her wider play, it doesn't really line up for me. I had her as pretty comfortably town as of day 1 end. Maybe I need to refer back to my notes for that.

And after that my leads are dead. Just doesn't line up for anyone else.

Oh well

Btw, N1 used it on Pero, N2 on Hayumi
N1 confused AM (Lethal), N2 Orca

Reasoning for Orca - thought his claim could just be fake for rolecop (his or Worst's and i assumed worst will be blocked anyway), also parked his vote on Ekko early on and haven't moved

Idk who sets this forum but on phone I tried several times to put these on spoiler and the text was moving down and it was impossible to select from the menu so I had to write the bbcode which is not cool in 2025 -.-

Noow... Regardless what Boq said about trusting Ekko because he was just an indy, I think he really tried to town side. So I want to analyse his wagon especially because Worst looks like giving up mafia in anti spew who doesn't even want to claim action because it would give us a piece of info