Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1149 Spoilers Discussion

What is worse for the sword nation ?


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Anyone who thinks Yamato > 1010 ACoC Luffy is actually on crack, just the base Luffy we saw against Kaido already has better feats than she does, she couldn't do more than get a drop of blood out of Kaido over the entire fight whereas Luffy had him vomiting out his organs with basic punches, never mind things like G4 which make Luffy many times stronger.
 
On a serious note now that people finally accepted that Gaban and eos Sanji are top tiers its time to accept that Akainu, Shanks, Mihawk, Kuzan have already surpassed Garp and Roger.
Hold your horses lol.
EoS sanji can be in lower realm of Top tier like current Yamato , Law , Zoro , Luffy.
And it wont be due to AdCoC. His upgrades works in different manner.

Mihawk > Garp Roger is true. Akainu possibly as well. Not the rest.
 
It's a simple fact that there's levels to ACoC.

I said long ago that if Gaban has ACoC he's undeniably a top-tier.

However, where he ranks within that top-tier is dependent on feats. My point is that simply having FS + ACoC is not enough to for us to be able to accurately place him. We need feats from him, as a character exists who has those exact same abilities and more (even had internal destruction CoA) and still wasn't even top-tier.

Yamato's ACoC wasn't stated to be crude nor clumsy, but it's still not even enough to place her in the top-tier. Whereas sky-splitter Luffy was top-tier even without G4 because his ACoC became that strong.
There are for sure levels, but then we can agree that Gaban's cannot be compared to some haki said to be crude and clumsy by Kaido.

As for the rest, sure, ideally we need feats, but we have very, very, very big and heavy statements that we surely didn't get for Yamato and that maybe we could have for pre-Nika Luffy.
Or would you see Yamato compared to Roger and Ray prime?
 
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