Role Madness Too Many Doctors (Game Thread)

[Ratchet]

I think you overextended to be honest, you saw Flower was doing Flower things and thoughts you had to commit to siding with her, but it just made you look bad. Not sure I'd say you're unpaired but I think you look a bit worse than she does.

 

[Ratchet]

Vote: Ekkologix

 

[Ratchet]

Well there you have it folks. In other words, a little less talk about our gameplan during the night and how about some more focus on actual reads during the day please and thank you.

Wanna share your reads?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

So why did you agree with Flower's plan earlier and say we should go with that instead? Also your maths is wrong but not getting into that right now.

i never agreed with the watcher plan.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I think you overextended to be honest, you saw Flower was doing Flower things and thoughts you had to commit to siding with her, but it just made you look bad. Not sure I'd say you're unpaired but I think you look a bit worse than she does.

thoughts on AM liking every doghsit post u make?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

now ur overcooking a bit flower, knowing wg a good third of these doctors wont listen or forget to submit an action. the watcher will get alot of false positives lol

this was my response to flower suggesting the watcher plan

then later on told her this

@Flower good luck getting all them chucklefks to submit an action on exactly one person with no townie abstaining / not submitting an action

the only flower plan i agreed with and still do was the 7-7-7, because it's a somewhat improvement from my original plan which was 4-4-4-4-4

 

[Ratchet]

thoughts on AM liking every doghsit post u make?

I don't think my posts are dogshit so I don't have any issue with it. If I'm wrong on you then he'd be a good starting point.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Vote lynch Alwaysmind

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I don't think my posts are dogshit so I don't have any issue with it. If I'm wrong on you then he'd be a good starting point.

so far you have 2 counts of incorrect fact recollections

 

[Ratchet]

this was my response to flower suggesting the watcher plan

then later on told her this



the only flower plan i agreed with and still do was the 7-7-7, because it's a somewhat improvement from my original plan which was 4-4-4-4-4

Okay, I accept that. But I do think it's noteworthy how disparate your reactions have been- when it came to my plan, because you were forced to disagree on principle you act like it made no sense and repeatedly have postured against it, yet with Flower you clearly understand the merits and only really have issue with the implementation of it.

Then with Flower, she doesn't have any issue with you saying not to do it, but insists that I'm discrediting her plan because it's just sooooo good that I must do so. Despite me not discrediting it at all but working with it.

And you read all this and have nothing else to add but nod your head and like her posts and +1 where you can, while -1 mine despite, you know, me pointing out to her and trying to explain to her the very same sentiment you apparently can see too. How am I supposed to reconcile this Ekko? Do I treat you as a bad faith actor like Flower is, irregardless of alignment? Is that what you are these days? Or are you just not reading.

It's hard not to take all of this as very positionally-motivated play from you. Flower to an extent I can buy as just being a mess, but you don't really have that out. This is before we even get into reads - just purely based on how this whole day has gone so far, I'm struggling to see your motivation as town. I think your dismissive retorts also serve a position-focused mindset, rather than a townie that cares about solving.

 

[Ratchet]

so far you have 2 counts of incorrect fact recollections

Do I need to explain to you that you calling my posts dogshit is not a fact? Because if this is all you have then I'm good to consider your slot solved and move on tbh.

 

[Hayumi]

Wanna share your reads?

Hime
Flower
YTW
Crowned

Are currently my top town leans more or less.


In my immediate poe is
Mango
Daniel

Everyone else is somewhere in my giant null category, I’d say I could also see a wolf between Ekko/Fuji

 

[Ratchet]

Hime
Flower
YTW
Crowned

Are currently my top town leans more or less.


In my immediate poe is
Mango
Daniel

Everyone else is somewhere in my giant null category, I’d say I could also see a wolf between Ekko/Fuji

What has you putting Flower so high?

 

[Ratchet]

Also @EkkoLoJinx I think your whole "wow you really struggle on WG" and "you can't play around the town ranges people have" or whatever it was, was very performative and not a real thought. Think it was far too early to lean into that in any case and you already demonstrated a willingness for that angle before I even started posting by connecting me with Fuji. So yeah not really buying you so far.

@Hayumi Thoughts on the above?

 

[Alwaysmind]

thoughts on AM liking every doghsit post u make?

Every is a bit of a stretch.

I didn’t know that you focused so much on likes like you are 14.

Vote lynch Alwaysmind

That’s Dr. Alwaysmind to you sir.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Okay, I accept that. But I do think it's noteworthy how disparate your reactions have been- when it came to my plan, because you were forced to disagree on principle you act like it made no sense and repeatedly have postured against it, yet with Flower you clearly understand the merits and only really have issue with the implementation of it.

Then with Flower, she doesn't have any issue with you saying not to do it, but insists that I'm discrediting her plan because it's just sooooo good that I must do so. Despite me not discrediting it at all but working with it.

And you read all this and have nothing else to add but nod your head and like her posts and +1 where you can, while -1 mine despite, you know, me pointing out to her and trying to explain to her the very same sentiment you apparently can see too. How am I supposed to reconcile this Ekko? Do I treat you as a bad faith actor like Flower is, irregardless of alignment? Is that what you are these days? Or are you just not reading.

It's hard not to take all of this as very positionally-motivated play from you. Flower to an extent I can buy as just being a mess, but you don't really have that out. This is before we even get into reads - just purely based on how this whole day has gone so far, I'm struggling to see your motivation as town. I think your dismissive retorts also serve a position-focused mindset, rather than a townie that cares about solving.

think any plan that involves watcher and all players visiting 1 person is just not practical. you added a whole kingmaker aspect to it which made it worst after i got to fully understand it imo

what flower is doing is probably cuz i agreed with her other plan and i read her favorably, while you kinda dont. seems pretty standard for her

Do I need to explain to you that you calling my posts dogshit is not a fact? Because if this is all you have then I'm good to consider your slot solved and move on tbh.

im obviously not referring to that ratchet

1. i dont know how u took my "derp" post as thought i am addressing hime when 2 posts before it flower is clearly asking did AM derp as a response to AM voting me, and not much else was happening based on the timestamps. there is no flow of posts that suggests that my response was to hime. if you're reading the thread then you're not parsing it properly. i don't need to quote AM or whatever lol. i never quoted hime yet you associated the post as a response to hime. this seems like a you issue don't it

2. i never agreed to any plan that involved watcher + all players visiting a single player, neither yours nor flowers. i agreed with the original plan and thats what ive been pushing. what flower does has nothing to do with me. im the one that has to be charitable here to see how u arrived at your positions. it looks like you have this circle scum hole and u want to fit a square ekko in it

 

[Hayumi]

Also @EkkoLoJinx I think your whole "wow you really struggle on WG" and "you can't play around the town ranges people have" or whatever it was, was very performative and not a real thought. Think it was far too early to lean into that in any case and you already demonstrated a willingness for that angle before I even started posting by connecting me with Fuji. So yeah not really buying you so far.

@Hayumi Thoughts on the above?

I need to go read that particular post in question because I don’t recall off the top of my head. But I think he’s questionable in general so I’ll read back

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Also @EkkoLoJinx I think your whole "wow you really struggle on WG" and "you can't play around the town ranges people have" or whatever it was, was very performative and not a real thought. Think it was far too early to lean into that in any case and you already demonstrated a willingness for that angle before I even started posting by connecting me with Fuji. So yeah not really buying you so far.

@Hayumi Thoughts on the above?

you entered town reading a player i was susing (hime) and tried to catch me in a contradiction with AM comment. sound like a struggle to me

 

[Hayumi]

What has you putting Flower so high?

I think what sold me the most was her coming up with different ideas and her confidence on the plan she settled on. Eventually doubled down and seems to have that sort of townie arrogance where she thinks she has the smartest possible options of coordination figure out. Her immediate offensive attitude at everyone saying otherwise struck me as more of a townie contrast then her last scum game where it felt like she did more to try and appease vs genuine frustration but then again I’m clearly not a great flower reader based on her scum game so I’m not confident, it’s just an early lean.

Her more recent posts are just so so, but she has valid points about questioning what her understanding of your plan was so for now I’ll keep her there

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Hime
Flower
YTW
Crowned

Are currently my top town leans more or less.


In my immediate poe is
Mango
Daniel

Everyone else is somewhere in my giant null category, I’d say I could also see a wolf between Ekko/Fuji

why YTW?

ig why crowned too idr much from her