Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1152 Spoilers Discussion

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

basically what we call ACOC is basic coc usage

makes sense because unlocking coc is just fodder control. its not a useful in real combat.

 

[Bad English]

Man can't believe that I will have to wait for another 3 months to find out who Zoro is fighting

 

[Welkin]

Man can't believe that I will have to wait for another 3 months to find out who Zoro is fighting

Need a bet thread

Killingham

Dorry/Brogy

Or Imu

Some people think Shamrock’s coming back so you could throw that in there too

I’m torn on it ngl

 

[Bad English]

basically what we call ACOC is basic coc usage

makes sense because unlocking coc is just fodder control. its not a useful in real combat.

1. Coc.
2. Acoc
3. AAcoc

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

How asspack is the middle generation btw

roger's n3
genuinely has better coc mastery than any of the yonko bar shanks probably.

 

[Boiroy]

Where's Sanji's coc 😂😂😂😂
Gaban don't even acknowledge his presence 😂😂😂

 

[Bad English]

How asspack is the middle generation btw

roger's n3
genuinely has better coc mastery than any of the yonko bar shanks probably.

No Kaido can use it too, only new gen are frauds yet.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

1. Coc.
2. Acoc
3. AAcoc

Number 1 is more so about potential to do damage in 2 and 3


when is it ever used in combat bar eye fucking.

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No Kaido can use it too, only new gen are frauds yet.

when did he use it ?

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Rayleigh said you can't train Coc, the direct experience in a battle is the key to unlock more power

retcon confirmed

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

How asspack is the middle generation btw

roger's n3
genuinely has better coc mastery than any of the yonko bar shanks probably.

Tbh we still haven't see what Mihawk true capabilities, Even I remember way before Hachinosu, people be clowning on Garp because of Marinford. Mihawk gon have a better showing later.

 

[Bad English]

Number 1 is more so about potential to do damage in 2 and 3


when is it ever used in combat bar eye fucking.

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when did he use it ?

I don't know but i think Kaido has AAcoc.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Holy knights agenda feasting

you guys got it all wrong
they are like lunarians
they arent all strong because they draw juice from imu
They are just unbeatable if you lack the power to draw blood. That has nothing to do with how strong they are. its more to do with their power source.

 

[comrade]

Why does Zoro need that new level of Haki though? I thought he was a swordsman, not a Hakiman. @nik87 @mly90

 

[Welkin]

retcon confirmed

Nahhhh I think he’s talking about basic CoC and the “strength” of it

It’s confirmed that it scales up with the user so you can’t “train it” in the typical sense

I think you can train to learn new applications but you can’t make it stronger by spamming it

It grows alongside you

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Man can't believe that I will have to wait for another 3 months to find out who Zoro is fighting

Majin Dorry

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Tbh we still haven't see what Mihawk true capabilities, Even I remember way before Hachinosu, people be clowning on Garp because of Marinford. Mihawk gon have a better showing later.

He will have almost as much as zoro will at the time so it will be a fair match yes.


I think generally for non df fighters , its a requirement.

 

[Rivaille]

So « King of hell » was not about mastering AdvCoC but about completely mastering Enma
Zoro is definitively on Oden’s level

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I don't know but i think Kaido has AAcoc.

He doesnt brodie and thats ok

he has a mythical zoan to compensate

 

[grey matter]

What confuses me is that there are dozen of HKs and 5 elders
are Luffy/Zoro/Sanji (i will assume he gets it in this arc) going to defeat multiple HKs in this arc and following arcs while other SHs and allies sit in the background or Oda going to start gifting ACOC+ to everyone?

This manga going down a death spiral if it starts gifting not only conqueror's haki, but also advanced version to whoever that plot wants.

It's fun for dudes here to meme on Yonko fans/Luffy fans/Zoro fans/admiral fans etc (I'm seeing it used for agendas all around the place in the thread), but I hope readers in good faith can acknowledge how terrible this is for OP.
Terrible decision from the author to make advanced conqueror's haki is a requirement to defeat gorosei and holy knights.

Some of them will (which I’m fine with, I think it fits for some of them)

Sabo is a lock to me. Ivankov and Kuma are up there too

Anything past that is hit or miss. Maybe Karasu?

I really don’t think it’s that crazy if you think about how much willpower you need to be a revolutionary in the first place. You’re fighting against a tyrannical government that’s ruled the world for almost a millennia

If an organization like that didn’t have a few CoC users I’d be surprised

I'm fine with Sabo having it, but that's about it.
Kuma had great will power, but will power isn't always a 1:1 with conqueror's haki. If anything, conqueror's haki is associated with unreasonable stubbornness (will power yes, but a bit different energy within the spectrum).

Issue with gifting it to randoms is that the two weakest advanced conqueror's users at the moment are Yamato and current Zoro, two characters who are approaching top tier.
It's an insane benchmark. It makes zero sense for some revo jobbers to have this ability. For context, Ivankov, 3rd strongest revo, was low-mid diff'd by Magellan.

Not to mention, Ivankov wouldn't have been sperging out about Luffy having it and reminiscing of Dragon, if conqueror's haki was common in RA

 

[zzShinichi]

Need a bet thread

Killingham

Dorry/Brogy

Or Imu

Some people think Shamrock’s coming back so you could throw that in there too

I’m torn on it ngl

Majin Dorry

I want to invest on Killingham but I don't wanna be heartbroken with another ZKK again

 

[Bad English]

He doesnt brodie and thats ok

he has a mythical zoan to compensate

But Oda wouldn't let him struggle against fodder HKs like Sommers.