Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

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How are Straw Hats ever supposed to surpass Rock Pirates? There's a limit to how much the M3 can carry, right?
Or Oda is going to go against the usual shonen trope and the MC crew won't surpass previous ones?
 
Coby is the first friend that Luffy made on his journey. We have known him longer than Zoro at this point. He is and will be more important than people give him credit. He is gonna define Marines as an organisation by EOS.
I literally hate Koby but he’s obviously an important character

Dudes actually think he’s like One Piece Konahamaru or some shit the reading comprehension issues are real
 

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How are Straw Hats ever supposed to surpass Rock Pirates? There's a limit to how much the M3 can carry, right?
Or Oda is going to go against the usual shonen trope and the MC crew won't surpass previous ones?
Luffy alone will be far above top tiers thanks to Joyboy parallel. Zoro and Sanji will be top tiers.
 
What’s wrong with what I said lol?
Luffy has no idea how Shanks fights nor how strong Shanks is. In his mind, Shanks is ¨strong¨ like Ace and Vivi are. He knew Shanks yeah, but only saw him drinking and stuff, he didn´t even know about haki. He might not have even known Shanks was a swordsman

OP characters almost never discuss this stuff, it´s not like Luffy has ever talked to Zolo about his sensei Rayleigh being a swordsman
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How are Straw Hats ever supposed to surpass Rock Pirates? There's a limit to how much the M3 can carry, right?
Or Oda is going to go against the usual shonen trope and the MC crew won't surpass previous ones?
You were smoking crack to think the strawhats would ever be above the Rocks crew.

¨New gen always surpassing the old¨ is just a meme phrase some shonen do, it doesn´t mean anything. Look at how Gohan got the torch passed down to him and he became irrelevant again
 
Half the commanders don't even have an answer to Pica let's be honest. And then there's Vergo who Oda made way too strong as a combatant so that he could match Pica without needing a df.

Consider the fact that Jack spelled out for us that Kinemon > Tobbi Roppo. And Kinemon was no match for Pica.
all yc1 can deal with pica.

Vergo with insane amounts of wank is yc2

yc3 is free to kill off the rest of doffy's fodder one by one
 
Luffy has no idea how Shanks fights nor how strong Shanks is. In his mind, Shanks is ¨strong¨ like Ace and Vivi are. He knew Shanks yeah, but only saw him drinking and stuff, he didn´t even know about haki. He might not have even known Shanks was a swordsman

OP characters almost never discuss this stuff, it´s not like Luffy has ever talked to Zolo about his sensei Rayleigh being a swordsman
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You were smoking crack to think the strawhats would ever be above the Rocks crew.

¨New gen always surpassing the old¨ is just a meme phrase some shonen do, it doesn´t mean anything. Look at how Gohan got the torch passed down to him and he became irrelevant again
How would Luffy not know that Shanks is a “swordsman”? He was carrying around his sword in Romance Dawn
 
Well, you´ve seen Shanks use the sword and you don´t even think he´s a swordsman. And you´re not a 7 year old kid
The Zboy argument is that anyone who uses a sword is universally considered a swordsman in the OP world. Under their logic, Luffy should know Shanks is a swordsman because he carries around a sword
 
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