Break Week What are Swordsmen? What does it mean to be WSS? Directly answered by Zoro

[Salah WG]

Meaning neither Shanks nor BM or Roger are swordsmen if they doesn't consider themselves one

It's like saying Ronaldo isn't a Footballer if He one day chooses not to call himself One,
Zoro's Statement isn't so that you claim People whose entire Fighting Style revolves around their Sword aren't Swordsmen,
It's so that We also include those who don't have Swords or have Fake Swordsmanship yet call themselves Swordsmen,
Such as a Giraffe who consider his Legs Swordsmanship or S-Hawk who turns his Body into Blades or Ohm who has a Transforming Whip ... etc

Zoro isn't "Limiting" his Targets with that Statement, He is Including More,
And I already mentioned how both Zoro & Cabaji don't consider Dirty Tactics to be Part of Swordsmanship, yet Cabaji considers himself a Swordsman & that's enough Reason for Zoro to teach him a Lesson even if He is not Fighting Fairly,

Those who are Swordsmen are Clear, you don't need to hear it from them, Shanks & Roger are Swordsmen whether you Like it or not,
But those who call themselves Swordsmen even though They are Fighting with their Legs or Circus Toys or Fake Sword are also Welcome as Mihawk/Zoro Victims,

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

It's like saying Ronaldo isn't a Footballer if He one day chooses not to call himself One,
Zoro's Statement isn't so that you claim People whose entire Fighting Style revolves around their Sword aren't Swordsmen,
It's so that We also include those who don't have Swords or have Fake Swordsmanship yet call themselves Swordsmen,
Such as a Giraffe who consider his Legs Swordsmanship or S-Hawk who turns his Body into Blades or Ohm who has a Transforming Whip ... etc

Zoro isn't "Limiting" his Targets with that Statement, He is Including More,
And I already mentioned how both Zoro & Cabaji don't consider Dirty Tactics to be Part of Swordsmanship, yet Cabaji considers himself a Swordsman & that's enough Reason for Zoro to teach him a Lesson even if He is not Fighting Fairly,

Those who are Swordsmen are Clear, you don't need to hear it from them, Shanks & Roger are Swordsmen whether you Like it or not,
But those who call themselves Swordsmen even though They are Fighting with their Legs or Circus Toys or Fake Sword are also Welcome as Mihawk/Zoro Victims,

Anyway, ->

Swords in One Piece are basically wands

And swords in general are overrated in fiction / anime

 

[Rootbeer]

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He only said Music is '' Power ''..

 

[TnCG13]

Zoro works out so does Mihawk, both are physically strong, but that isn't swordsmanship.
Let's say Zoro was 100 times faster than Mihawk, he'd speedblitz Mihawk and beat him easily even without a sword, but that doesn't mean he's the superior swordsman.

Physical skill is 1 of the core of swordmanship. Irl, swordmanship encompasses Physical skill (Body), Mental skill (Mind) and Techniques (sword handling...).

Footwork is part of swordmanship using the feet to move and not the sword.

Mastering the distance, timing, reflex and speed....

Often the speed can decide the outcome or a powerful strike that breaks the opponent's defense leaving an opening.

In One Piece, it is not that much different. We saw Kuina complaining about the limitation of her body.

If Zoro is 100 times faster than Mihawk and beat him with a sword. It would prove that his blitz sword style is the superior swordmanship and that Mihawk's cannot keep up with it. Zoro is fast with Shishi sonson, nobody is going to tell him to stop using it because it is too fast.

And Zoro beating him without a sword doesnt change much since he beat him in both case with your logic.

 

[GeneralP123]

Physical skill is 1 of the core of swordmanship. Irl, swordmanship encompasses Physical skill (Body), Mental skill (Mind) and Techniques (sword handling...).

Footwork is part of swordmanship using the feet to move and not the sword.

Mastering the distance, timing, reflex and speed....

Often the speed can decide the outcome or a powerful strike that breaks the opponent's defense leaving an opening.

In One Piece, it is not that much different. We saw Kuina complaining about the limitation of her body.

If Zoro is 100 times faster than Mihawk and beat him with a sword. It would prove that his blitz sword style is the superior swordmanship and that Mihawk's cannot keep up with it. Zoro is fast with Shishi sonson, nobody is going to tell him to stop using it because it is too fast.

And Zoro beating him without a sword doesnt change much since he beat him in both case with your logic.

That would only mean he ompletely outclassed him in speed, which isn't swordsmanship.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

He only said Music is '' Power ''..

 

[Rootbeer]

It does say Skill but not Sword Skill and it's a different wording.. I don't know..

 

[Erkan12]

Those who are Swordsmen are Clear, you don't need to hear it from them, Shanks & Roger are Swordsmen whether you Like it or not,
But those who call themselves Swordsmen even though They are Fighting with their Legs or Circus Toys or Fake Sword are also Welcome as Mihawk/Zoro Victims,

Thats only if sword style > every other style was confirmed, its not.

WSM wasn't a swordsman so we know, other fighting styles > sword style easily.

If someone like WB also used sword, that WGS would mean absolutely nothing.

Because WSM WB already proved other fighting styles > WGS Mihawk's style.

But you ZKKfans say it should be sword style > other styles so if someone uses sword, they should be automatically weaker, thats not the case.

 

[Shanal]

Keep lying like you lied about ZKK and apprentice Shanks being fodder

Your ZKK mind can tell you its different but proper English language say its WGS. And its a tiny insignificant title compared to WSM, PK, or even Emperor title.

Oda confirmed WGS hide behind Emperor title.

Speak proper English, don't use ZKK terminology. Its called WGS and its a tiny title compared to other titles.

Luffy belittled Zolo's title when he first time he heard;

''If PK's crewmate can't even be WGS, I would be disappointed''

Idk why you're quoting me with bait responses completely and utterly irrelevant to what we were even talking about

Concession accepted ig

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

That would only mean he ompletely outclassed him in speed, which isn't swordsmanship.

So how do you make sure speed difference don’t affect their fight?

I mean you are going to tell Zoro or Mihawk to not use their fast attack, right?

And on that note, what about every other physical difference between, Zoro has monstrous endurance. What if the deciding factor in their fight is that Zoro tanks more hits than Mihawk tanks. Are you gonna make it that somehow Zoro’s inhuman capacity to take damage is removed from their fight?

 

[Rootbeer]

Speak proper English, don't use ZKK terminology. Its called WGS and its a tiny title compared to other titles.

Luffy belittled Zolo's title when he first time he heard;

''If PK's crewmate can't even be WGS, I would be disappointed''

It's World '' Strongest '' Swordsman.. Greatest doesn't exist, never will.. Saikyou only translates to Strongest..


Isn't it odd that Viz translate Mihawk's title to Greatest, but here they can translate properly World Strongest..

Let me answer for you, Viz is full of shit..

Saikyou = Strongest

 

[Erkan12]

Idk why you're quoting me with bait responses completely and utterly irrelevant to what we were even talking about

Concession accepted ig

WGS being very inferior to WSM title and Emperor title is a fact, you can cope all you want.

 

[Impact]

Zoro fans and Mihawk fans aren't real One Piece fans to begin with. They're "fair-weather fans" who only like Mihawk because he's permanently a "fair-weather" guy. They're aura farming a safe pick.

What they'll find out is what happens with EVERY character Oda designs. He gives his characters dispositions. Unfortunately, if you want a guy to be perfect, what you'll find out is he's hugely flawed. I'm guessing that's exactly what's going to happen to these fake fans.

It's also "fair-weather" because literally nobody tries for the title of WSS except Zoro lmao he has no real opponents to speak of outside of Mihawk in that and this will pretty much always be the case. No strong famous person, anywhere, is really bothering those two with their little sword competition. The weird part is nobody is trying to compete with them, and you're here trying to include everybody in it when, in reality, nobody ever mentions trying to be a skilled swordsman competing for WSS. Ever.

Of course it's a safe title when nobody is even trying to get it. Being WSS literally translates to "This is a participation trophy for Zoro since basically nobody else wants it anyway".

WSS = Participation trophy 🏆

Yay! You won the thing nobody showed up to or ever really cared about. Big deal.

 

[HA001]

Zoro fans and Mihawk fans aren't real One Piece fans to begin with. They're "fair-weather fans" who only like Mihawk because he's permanently a "fair-weather" guy. They're aura farming a safe pick.

What they'll find out is what happens with EVERY character Oda designs. He gives his characters dispositions. Unfortunately, if you want a guy to be perfect, what you'll find out is he's hugely flawed. I'm guessing that's exactly what's going to happen to these fake fans.

It's also "fair-weather" because literally nobody tries for the title of WSS except Zoro lmao he has no real opponents to speak of outside of Mihawk in that and this will pretty much always be the case. No strong famous person, anywhere, is really bothering those two with their little sword competition. The weird part is nobody is trying to compete with them, and you're here trying to include everybody in it when, in reality, nobody ever mentions trying to be a skilled swordsman competing for WSS. Ever.

Of course it's a safe title when nobody is even trying to get it. Being WSS literally translates to "This is a participation trophy for Zoro since basically nobody else wants it anyway".

WSS = Participation trophy 🏆

Yay! You won the thing nobody showed up to or ever really cared about. Big deal.

So why did Branew mention yonko shanks sword skill then ?

 

[TnCG13]

That would only mean he ompletely outclassed him in speed, which isn't swordsmanship.

Seems that you didnt read what I wrote at all. Physical skill is a part of swordmanship. Kuina didnt complain about her body just for the lol. Did you skip that part in the manga?

Swordmanship is a discipline, it is a mixture and physical skill just like mental skill are part of it. I gave the exemple of mastering the distance which is a mental skill.

The physical skill involved to execute the art is a part of it. The Iai technique relies heavily on speed so is it not swordsmanship now?

Some arts of swordmanship might rely on more speed or more strength. If the opponents cannot respond, it is their problem not the one using his art.

 

[GeneralP123]

Seems that you didnt read what I wrote at all. Physical skill is a part of swordmanship. Kuina didnt complain about her body just for the lol. Did you skip that part in the manga?

Swordmanship is a discipline, it is a mixture and physical skill just like mental skill are part of it. I gave the exemple of mastering the distance which is a mental skill.

The physical skill involved to execute the art is a part of it. The Iai technique relies heavily on speed so is it not swordsmanship now?

Some arts of swordmanship might rely on more speed or more strength. If the opponents cannot respond, it is their problem not the one using his art.

I did and I disagree, just being a speed machine isn't swordsmanship.

 

[TnCG13]

I did and I disagree, just being a speed machine isn't swordsmanship.

Someone being fast by nature or by training is not forbidden from using his speed in his swordmanship.

Being a speed machine (Body only) isnt swordmanship but using that speed to execute the art of swordmanship makes it a part of it. Swordmanship is a mixture.

 

[Shanal]

WGS being very inferior to WSM title and Emperor title is a fact, you can cope all you want.

Yes and no but again irrelevant to any of what you or I were saying lmao lol