Speculations Did Silver axe and shiki fought Gaban and Rayleigh?
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Roger Xebec, Rayleigh Whitebeard, Gaban Kaido, Garp Bigmom. I think this makes most sense. 
If she clashed equally with him at God Valley this is gonna tumble the Dodger agenda once again
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Rival dynamic btw Shiki & Kyou has "wings opponents" written all over it.
Moreover like a few select Rocks Pirates till now, Kyou has the "later on goes on to become..." intro, so he's being introduced as one of the main hitters of the Rocks Pirates. That and his intro was pretty big highlight in this flashback. Not to mention he was one of the Rocks Pirates that Sengoku mentioned in Chapter "Ultimate". Then there's the fact that he's a axe user.
Main Rocks Pirates as we know atm are:
Rocks, Newgate, Linlin, Kaido, Shiki, Kyou and Ouchoku
By process of elimination:
"Rocks" is Roger's matchup
"Newgate" is implied to have had a confrontation with Garling
"Big Mom" was buzzing around for devil fruits so prolly displayed mercenary type behavior on God Valley (i.e. bailed on the fight since others were occupied and went after DFs instead)
"Kaido" was still pretty much Kaido-kun at this point lol so wings were above his pay grade
Which leaves only Ouchoku, Kyou and Shiki
Don't know who Ouchoku fought on GV but considering he's gotten a bit of focus on Hachinosu and was used as a stepping stone for Teach, I reckon he was created for that very purpose which he's already fulfilled so doubt he tangos with the wings.
So it's gotta be Shiki and Kyou for the wings.
Moreover like a few select Rocks Pirates till now, Kyou has the "later on goes on to become..." intro, so he's being introduced as one of the main hitters of the Rocks Pirates. That and his intro was pretty big highlight in this flashback. Not to mention he was one of the Rocks Pirates that Sengoku mentioned in Chapter "Ultimate". Then there's the fact that he's a axe user.
Main Rocks Pirates as we know atm are:
Rocks, Newgate, Linlin, Kaido, Shiki, Kyou and Ouchoku
By process of elimination:
"Rocks" is Roger's matchup
"Newgate" is implied to have had a confrontation with Garling
"Big Mom" was buzzing around for devil fruits so prolly displayed mercenary type behavior on God Valley (i.e. bailed on the fight since others were occupied and went after DFs instead)
"Kaido" was still pretty much Kaido-kun at this point lol so wings were above his pay grade
Which leaves only Ouchoku, Kyou and Shiki
Don't know who Ouchoku fought on GV but considering he's gotten a bit of focus on Hachinosu and was used as a stepping stone for Teach, I reckon he was created for that very purpose which he's already fulfilled so doubt he tangos with the wings.
So it's gotta be Shiki and Kyou for the wings.
Surely not. There are million other ways Oda could've written Sommers fear of Gaban developing.
Like him getting caught up in the crossfire of a fight btw Gaban and whoever he was fighting on Rocks side. Or hell simply the fact that Gaban is a legend.
vs. the Rocks Pirates was the biggest battle the Roger Pirates ever fought. There's no way on god's green earth that Scopper was simply tasked with crowd/fodder control. Moreover the gods night were not necessarily the Roger Pirates enemies on GV. If anything the Roger Pirates are said to have helped the Celestials.
Like him getting caught up in the crossfire of a fight btw Gaban and whoever he was fighting on Rocks side. Or hell simply the fact that Gaban is a legend.
vs. the Rocks Pirates was the biggest battle the Roger Pirates ever fought. There's no way on god's green earth that Scopper was simply tasked with crowd/fodder control. Moreover the gods night were not necessarily the Roger Pirates enemies on GV. If anything the Roger Pirates are said to have helped the Celestials.
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Ray himself Is comparable to Roger via explicit statement, so.
And anyway, as said, they don't trash WB for his supposed fight against Garling, who has absolutely zero feats, and Shiki against one of the most hyped characters, mentor of the protagonsit, one who made an Emperor shy away as an old man, should be a problem for Shiki?
If anything It would mean Shiki was Indeed that strong.
And anyway, as said, they don't trash WB for his supposed fight against Garling, who has absolutely zero feats, and Shiki against one of the most hyped characters, mentor of the protagonsit, one who made an Emperor shy away as an old man, should be a problem for Shiki?
If anything It would mean Shiki was Indeed that strong.
He isn't and literally nobody believes that.
Who is "they"? What supposed fight with Garling? What the fuck are you even talking about?
Shiki fighting Rayleigh would mean Shiki was indeed not that strong, not compared to the gold medalist PK level characters anyway, it'd mean Shiki is just at best above Admirals like Prime Rayleigh.
Who is "they"? What supposed fight with Garling? What the fuck are you even talking about?
Shiki fighting Rayleigh would mean Shiki was indeed not that strong, not compared to the gold medalist PK level characters anyway, it'd mean Shiki is just at best above Admirals like Prime Rayleigh.
idk what to tell you. I am sorry, but we knew since Sabaody.
? What you are even saying?
You were trying to sell that Shiki fighting the Dark King was supposedly a problem for Shiki and I have pointed out that if anything WB Fighting a nobody like Garling was. Still, BB was too on par with Roger.
But since, again, Ray was compared to Roger and BB and was called a legend even by Garp, Shiki fighting Ray would mean exactly the opposite, that he was indeed at that level.
? What you are even saying?
You were trying to sell that Shiki fighting the Dark King was supposedly a problem for Shiki and I have pointed out that if anything WB Fighting a nobody like Garling was. Still, BB was too on par with Roger.
But since, again, Ray was compared to Roger and BB and was called a legend even by Garp, Shiki fighting Ray would mean exactly the opposite, that he was indeed at that level.