Character Discussion Kuzan, the conqueror.

[gz89]

Non believed that shit and it was copium.

again nothing to do with Zoro. , Shanks was fighting Mihawk already.


People doubted it even after vivre card came out because it was confirmed.

There's was no rayleigh parallel which said zoro will get CoC too. They have different fighting style.. zoro is more towards Cutting it and Rayleigh proceeds with No touch and all kind of haki application...


Except for being the first mate , they have nothing in common. Maybe drinking.



Garp was already Speculated and Accepted in the community unlike Mihawk , Zoro and Kuzan.



Not even the same Fighting style 😮‍💨😮‍💨

Whatever makes you happy.

Just don't get mad and delete your account when Akainu and Sanji use acoc.

 

[Cruxroux]

Whatever makes you happy.

Just don't get mad and delete your account when Akainu and Sanji use acoc.

" Whatever makes you Happy "

- Doesn't counter anything
- Provokes for the n'th time.
- leaves

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Zoro will be better than Rayleigh and Mihawk in swordmanship
He still lacks CoC... so he wont even be a conqueror

There are enough examples of non CoC users being superior to CoC users. Apart from that, Zoro might unlock CoC as well. He has an immensely strong spirit and will.

@gz89 this was general idea back then.
No one really believed Zoro would get Conqueror Because Rayleigh Parallel.

It was only due to his will lmao. So don't bring up Gaban Parallel when they don't even have the Same fighting LOL.

 

[Rumble]

Conquers all have one thing in common, and that’s living their lives on their own terms.

Aside Sengoku, this applies to every known Conqueror.

Kuzan doesn’t fit the description. It doesn’t work for Admirals to begin with, thematically.

 

[Cruxroux]

Conquers all have one thing in common, and that’s living their lives on their own terms.

Aside Sengoku, this applies to every known Conqueror.

Kushan doesn’t fit the description. It doesn’t work for Admirals to begin with, thematically.

They are legit given Logia to balance the power.

 

[Rumble]

They are legit given Logia to balance the power.

Oda making CoC a prerequisite almost was a stupid mistake.

There should be legit top tiers without it.

Mihawk 99.99% has it, but I’d be more impressed if he were an Emperor tier fighter without it.

Kizaru seems all but confirmed in writing not to have it and he could hang with Luffy, albeit with help of plot.

Admirals being able to trade blows - pause - with the strongest in the world without having the power of the “chosen ones” is a flex for the Admiral agenda.

 

[park_min young]

Conquers all have one thing in common, and that’s living their lives on their own terms.

Aside Sengoku, this applies to every known Conqueror.

Kushan doesn’t fit the description. It doesn’t work for Admirals to begin with, thematically.

Kuzan is literally living his life on his own terms, that‘s the entire point of him eventually rejecting the marines and joining Teach.

 

[Rumble]

Kuzan is literally living his life on his own terms, that‘s the entire point of him eventually rejecting the marines and joining Teach.

Kuzan is living the life he has to do what he can, but it’s not the life he chose or wants, and it’s clear he’s carrying an enormous burden while working toward something bigger, whatever that may be.

 

[Cruxroux]

Oda making CoC a prerequisite almost was a stupid mistake.

There should be legit top tiers without it.

Admirals are the closest you can get and even they are considered low top tier , due to their Logia fruits.

Oda planned Haki to reign supreme since the beginning.

Admirals being able to trade blows - pause - with the strongest in the world without having the power of the “chosen ones” is a flex for the Admiral agenda.

Admirals fans Wanna push Admiral > PK.
All the best that.

 

[gz89]

@gz89 this was general idea back then.
No one really believed Zoro would get Conqueror Because Rayleigh Parallel.

No, it wasn't.
Any reasonable reader knew that Zoro would get coc at some point after Ray's introduction.

You're the same as Ndule, the only difference is that you talk nonsense about Sanji.

 

[park_min young]

Kuzan is living the life he has to do what he can, but it’s not the life he chose or wants, and it’s clear he’s carrying an enormous burden while working toward something bigger, whatever that may be.

So like most conquerors as well? Even the strongest conquerors like Xebec, Kaido, BM, etc... — they all couldn’t live the life they coveted. Kuzan is clearly not a blind follower is what I’m saying. He’s a free thinker and will act to do what he wants. In fact, he’s not so different from Garp or Dragon who both were oblivious from the true nature of the World Government at one point.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

So like most conquerors as well? Even the strongest conquerors like Xebec, Kaido, BM, etc... — they all couldn’t live the life they coveted. Kuzan is clearly not a blind follower is what I’m saying. He’s a free thinker and will act to do what he wants. In fact, he’s not so different from Garp or Dragon who both were oblivious from the true nature of the World Government at one point.

Kuzan is way freer than some canon conquerors lmao, had a fight to death that lasted 10 days and left his high ranked position because he stood on business for what he believes. Oda specically answered Q/A stating that for Kuzan being a pirate is about being free and he's not the type to blindly obey Blackbeard. He clearly got his own goal that happens to be aligned with BB, he's not a BBP because he submitted to strenght or anything, we saw the FB and what convinced Kuzan.

 

[park_min young]

Kuzan is way freer than some canon conquerors lmao, had a fight to death that lasted 10 days and left his high ranked position because he stood on business or what he believes. Oda specically answered Q/A stating that for Kuzan being a pirate is about being free and he's not the type to blindly obey Blackbeard. He clearly got his own goal that happens to be aligned with BB, he's not a BBP because he submitted to strenght or anything, we saw the FB and what convinced Kuzan.

Exactly, he’s more akin to Xebec’s WB or Shiki right now. I think that Kuzan will have CoC, Akainu is guaranteed to have it. He‘s even included in the race for One Piece panel.

 

[Killer#777]

Aside Sengoku, this applies to every known Conqueror.

why besides him?

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Because he wanted to, even though he was conflicted about it.

listen aokiji stepping up to akainu is the only time he ever stands up for something he actually believes in. And the moment he lost to akainu he quit the marines and became a pirate under a emperor crew.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Why did Kuzan coated his hands with ice and no haki trail when attacking garp?