Speculations Rocks used hostages against the Admiral

[Dragon777]

ACoC is enough, Luffy is capable of it without being taught any new level of CoC.

Literally not the case since It didn't happen.

 

[MUUGEN]

Btw why was this Admiral there back then?what about other ones?

reverie

 

[SkySanji]

Literally not the case since It didn't happen.

Literally is the case, Luffy has learned nothing new, Gaban just told him that ACoC is the secret to preventing their regeneration.

 

[Dragon777]

Literally is the case, Luffy has learned nothing new, Gaban just told him that ACoC is the secret to preventing their regeneration.

Literally not, but fell free to post me Luffy wounding a Gorosei.

 

[nik87]

Aramaki using hostages to capture Weevil - Empowerment.
Rocks using hostages to kill Admiral - Harassment.

 

[SkySanji]

Literally not, but fell free to post me Luffy wounding a Gorosei.

Literally is, feel free to post me Luffy using ACoC against the Gorosei or learning a new level of ACoC from Gaban.

 

[Dragon777]

Literally is, feel free to post me Luffy using ACoC against the Gorosei or learning a new level of ACoC from Gaban.

And you still didn't post where this happened lol.

 

[SkySanji]

And you still didn't post where this happened lol.

Where what happened? Luffy learning a new level of ACoC from Gaban or attacking a Gorosei with ACoC? Neither of those things happened.

 

[JDragon20]

Pirates don't play fair

 

[Dragon777]

Where what happened? Luffy learning a new level of ACoC from Gaban or attacking a Gorosei with ACoC? Neither of those things happened.

So in an entire arc Luffy never wounded a Gorosei even though he had AdvCoC.

Good, this proves Luffy couldn't, as Gaban said.

 

[mly90]

Aramaki using hostages to capture Weevil - Empowerment.
Rocks using hostages to kill Admiral - Harassment.

 

[kekaro]

You mean admirals

 

[SkySanji]

So in an entire arc Luffy never wounded a Gorosei.

Good, thanks to have admitted Luffy couldn't.

Luffy never used ACoC against a Gorosei, correct.

Luffy is capable of it, Gaban is fine with him going to fight the immortal Holy Knights and just told him to use ACoC, all ACoC users are capable of it, they just don't know it's the weakness.

 

[Dragon777]

Luffy never used ACoC against a Gorosei, correct.

And this is cope, correct.

Luffy fought an entire arc against the Gorosei and he himself said he couldn't damage them. Then Gaban came and said a higher application of CoC was needed.

Also completely contradictory coming from you: Admirals don't have CoC because they didn't show it in non serious fights, but Luffy could damage the Gorosei because he didn't during a serious fight and said he didn't know how lol.

 

[SkySanji]

And this is cope, correct.

Can you provide even a single panel of Luffy using ACoC against the Gorosei?

Luffy fought an entire arc against the Gorosei and he himself said he couldn't damage them. Then Gaban came and said a higher application of CoC was needed.

Where did he say this

Also completely contradictory coming from you: Admirals don't have CoC because they didn't show it in non serious fights, but Luffy could damage the Gorosei because he didn't during a serious fight and said he didn't know how lol.

Admirals haven't showed even basic CoC in serious fights, they're CoC-less bums.

We know Luffy has ACoC, we also know that Gaban is fine with him fighting the Holy Knights and reveals that ACoC is their weakness.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

I belive both Aramaki and Xebec used hostages and dirty tactics against their opponents

i also believe that they're both decently stronger(at absolute bare minimum) than their opponents

 

[Dragon777]

Can you provide even a single panel of Luffy using ACoC against the Gorosei?

Luffy saying he doesn't know how to injure them.

Where did he say this

When he says to be mindful on how to use CoC and then proceeds to explain it to them.

Admirals haven't showed even basic CoC in serious fights, they're CoC-less bums.

Sure:

Luffy doesn't damage in serous fights --> he could have

Admirals don't show it (well, they did, but anyway) in non serious fights --> they don't have it

flawless

 

[SkySanji]

Luffy saying he doesn't know how to injure them.

Because he didn't know ACoC was the weakness yet and never used it against them, real basic stuff you're failing to grasp here.

When he says to be mindful on how to use CoC and then proceeds to explain it to them.

So Gaban never said anything about a higher application of ACoC and you pulled that straight from your ass

Sure:

Luffy doesn't damage in serous fights --> he could have

Admirals don't show it (well, they did, but anyway) in non serious fights --> they don't have it

flawless

Gaban confirms ACoC is the counter to their immortality and Luffy received no training from Gaban. Admirals having CoC is confirmed literally nowhere and they've had ample opportunities to show it and still nothing, this isn't the "gotcha" moment you seem to think it is.

 

[Dragon777]

Because he didn't know ACoC was the weakness yet and never used it against them, real basic stuff you're failing to grasp here.

Sure, your "explanation" is Luffy having a serious fight and randomly forgetting the highest level of offensive haki he had just acquired .

All while saying he had no idea how to damage them no less. Super logical.

So Gaban never said anything about a higher application of ACoC and you pulled that straight from your ass

Why does it burn that much Gaban saying even a skuplitter needs to be mindful about how he uses the CoC lol?

Gaban confirms ACoC is the counter to their immortality and Luffy received no training from Gaban. Admirals having CoC is confirmed literally nowhere and they've had ample opportunities to show it and still nothing, this isn't the "gotcha" moment you seem to think it is.

So again:

Luffy did use it in serious fights --> he could

Admirals didn't in non serious --> they couldn't

Perfect lol.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

None of the three current Admirals have shown to have Conqueror's Haki, so while they are better fighters, they could not actually harm any of the Holy Knights.

It is incredibly bad writing, but that's what is canon.