Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

Will Sanji unclock CoC


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TheAncientCenturion

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Kisame's portrayal doesn't even come close to Sasori's within the org. Not even Kakuzu's. Kisame is treated more like the lil bro in the Akatsuki. Nagato, Itachi, Sasori, Kakuzu would be the seniors by portrayal.

Someone like Deidara was bowing down to Sasori.
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You're addicted to headcanon with seniors > all juniors, Kisame's been compared to perfect Jinchuuriki by word of mouth with Oonoki actually verifying everything is true, not empty hype.

 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
One of the three legendary sannin

Like itachi did not neg one of them already...
And tsunade is all boobs. She'd get folded faster than the snake
Jiraiya wank statements were insane from kishi but the feats just weren't there
Jiraiya pushed Nagato harder than Lava Girl could ever dream of doing, she would have to team up with Shark Boy to even attempt to come that close
 
Orochimaru temporarily gained the upper hand against Jiraiya and Tsunade in a 1 vs 2 with his arms sealed. Meanwhile base Sharingan Itachi treated Orchimaru like a toddler.

Jiraiya believed besting Hanzou (Mifune's peer) was an impossible feat. He just ain't on Itachi's level. Not even close.
 
Orochimaru temporarily gained the upper hand against Jiraiya and Tsunade in a 1 vs 2 with his arms sealed. Meanwhile base Sharingan Itachi treated Orchimaru like a toddler.

Jiraiya believed besting Hanzou (Mifune's peer) was an impossible feat. He just ain't on Itachi's level. Not even close.

Using that particular example isn't a good one because Jiraiya was drunk which considerably nerfed him and Tsunade's resolve had been shattered up until that point


But yes it is well established that Itachi is far above Sannin level
 

TheAncientCenturion

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Kisame was portrayed as someone who will have a hard time against part1 Kakashi if he could even win

And this is how Itachi reacted just from hearing Kabuto had sage mode



The portrayal always stayed consistent
Kisame is the guy Obito sends to beat Bee half to death then convincingly lose to spy on them, don't kid yourself.

Yeah, Sage Mode is impressive especially when you master it. Jiraiya wouldn't be able to summon the elder toads against Itachi. He's far too quick of a fighter.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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When Deidara is monologuing about the Three tails lacking a jinchuuriki host, and then including 2 panels of Obito in what appears to be silent retrospection and Kishi going out of his way to have Deidara comment on "Tobi's" stark change in demeanour
It's just a shame Tobi was planned to be Madara at this point in time and not Obito.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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Kakuzu isn't much higher than a high jonin level fighter, he's really quite unimpressive all things considered
He was created to show off the elemental chakra system but Kishi got bored of that almost immediately after this arc, sans a few callbacks down the road.

Edo Hiruzen outdoing Kakuzu in the War really pulls it all home, considering Orochimaru did not think highly of this vers. of Hiruzen initially.
 
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