Speculations Let me cope more. (Shockwaves)

#41
Shockwave style swordsmanship or in general can take DC feats but cutting will always reign over from damage standpoint, a Tougen Shirataki would've done way more damage than Roger's attack did on Garp + a scar for lifetime.
Nah, they’re using stronger haki to produce those shockwaves just for DC?
Cutting attacks will simply look more devastating because you can see more blood and visible damage. That doesn’t mean that it’s stronger; Shockwaves can end fights faster with its knockout power… plus, it will win in clashes.

Xebec also clapped an admiral so hard that they can’t save them with the immediate attention of the finest doctors in the world lol. You know you’ve been hit hard when Oda adds that line in. Folks rarely even die in One Piece fights. Shockwave is supreme, there‘s a reason why all of the legends use it.
 
#43
Nah, they’re using stronger haki to produce those shockwaves just for DC?
Cutting attacks will simply look more devastating because you can see more blood and visible damage. That doesn’t mean that it’s stronger; Shockwaves can end fights faster with its knockout power… plus, it will win in clashes.

Xebec also clapped an admiral so hard that they can’t save them with the immediate attention of the finest doctors in the world lol. You know you’ve been hit hard when Oda adds that line in. Folks rarely even die in One Piece fights. Shockwave is supreme, there‘s a reason why all of the legends use it.
Not just for DC but the feats certainly don't put it above. I don't think it's because it simply looks more devastating, it just is, Roger who everyone put above Oden regardless of whether its his strongest attack or not should be doing more damage than Togen Totsuka, so far the damage has been significantly below that and that's on a human like that and it's not just visually lol, Garp would've been white eyes and unable to react to any potential attack after that. Xebec was going to clap him regardless of him using. any style of swordsmanship.
 
#44
Not just for DC but the feats certainly don't put it above. I don't think it's because it simply looks more devastating, it just is, Roger who everyone put above Oden regardless of whether its his strongest attack or not should be doing more damage than Togen Totsuka, so far the damage has been significantly below that and that's on a human like that and it's not just visually lol, Garp would've been white eyes and unable to react to any potential attack after that. Xebec was going to clap him regardless of him using. any style of swordsmanship.
You are comparing a small unnamed attack from young Roger to Oden’s strongest attack. We don’t know Roger’s max potential unless Oda shows it in this flashback. There was 0 DC so it means that those weren’t serious attacks. Old Garp’s Galaxy Impact can level a town for example, and that was a non-prime version. What we saw Roger and Garp do is more comparable to Oden using basic slashes. Roger, and Xebec’s damage output limit are unknown. I think it should be stronger than Blazing Bagua or Wano Bajrang Gun though. That’s a fair assumption since they have higher portrayal than Kaido or Wano Luffy. Oden can’t contend with that level of power btw, he’ll instantly lose in the power struggle.
 
#45
You are comparing a small unnamed attack from young Roger to Oden’s strongest attack. We don’t know Roger’s max potential unless Oda shows it in this flashback. There was 0 DC so it means that those weren’t serious attacks. Old Garp’s Galaxy Impact can level a town for example, and that was a non-prime version. What we saw Roger and Garp do is more comparable to Oden using basic slashes. Roger, and Xebec’s damage output limit are unknown. I think it should be stronger than Blazing Bagua or Wano Bajrang Gun though. That’s a fair assumption since they have higher portrayal than Kaido or Wano Luffy. Oden can’t contend with that level of power btw, he’ll instantly lose in the power struggle.
Huge DC doesn't mean powerful attack.

Galaxy Impact won't even scratch kaidou.

And who tf said Oden gave his strongest attack?

We arr taking the best we have seen so far.

Roger and shanks used kamasuri and it's their Signature attacks. No way it's weaker.

We are living on assumption here.

Oden cut through both Blazing Bagua and Bajrang Gun, Only zoro with King of hell has surpassed that.
 
#46
Huge DC doesn't mean powerful attack.

Galaxy Impact won't even scratch kaidou.
Tf are you talking about?
Huge DC is highly associated with strong attacks, is Hakai weak for you?

Galaxy Impact would heavily damage Kaido lol. Oda didn’t let any of the BBP take direct hits from Garp’s haki attacks. Shiryu was gimping from a hakiless throw, even Kuzan did not take any Galaxy-themed attacks. Pizarro’s real body wasn’t hit so that more than likely mitigated the damage.
And who tf said Oden gave his strongest attack?

We arr taking the best we have seen so far.

Roger and shanks used kamasuri and it's their Signature attacks. No way it's weaker.

We are living on assumption here.
Oden is capped at g4 Luffy‘s level of performance, which was a solid high-diff. Just look at the clear parallels of their defeats. That’s what their extended fight would look like.

Oden cut through both Blazing Bagua and Bajrang Gun, Only zoro with King of hell has surpassed that.
I mean talk about creating your own happiness, living in La La Land?
:Ou_Lol:
 
#47
Tf are you talking about?
Huge DC is highly associated with strong attacks, is Hakai weak for you?

Galaxy Impact would heavily damage Kaido lol. Oda didn’t let any of the BBP take direct hits from Garp’s haki attacks. Shiryu was gimping from a hakiless throw, even Kuzan did not take any Galaxy-themed attacks. Pizarro’s real body wasn’t hit so that more than likely mitigated the damage.
Big attack doesn't mean Big AP lmao.

Law cut Entire mountain in Punk Hazard.
Vs
KAIDOU THUNDER BAGUA.

LET'S SEE WHO WINS LOL.


Oden is capped at g4 Luffy‘s level of performance, which was a solid high-diff. Just look at the clear parallels of their defeats. That’s what their extended fight would look like.
Extended fight lmao.

Luffy dies 3 times , Comes back , Weak and exhausted kaidou.

Oden fought kaidou alone to that point and nearly won.


I mean talk about creating your own happiness, living in La La Land?
:Ou_Lol:
Says the one who thinks Law has powerful attacks.
:ihaha::ihaha:

I swear to god these law tards.


Law multiple attacks + Kidd final attack + Bombs and still can't knockout Bigmom.

Oden fought the entire battle and proceeds to Knock out Kaidou.

Get off your drugs
 
#48
Big attack doesn't mean Big AP lmao.

Law cut Entire mountain in Punk Hazard.
Vs
KAIDOU THUNDER BAGUA.

LET'S SEE WHO WINS LOL.



Extended fight lmao.

Luffy dies 3 times , Comes back , Weak and exhausted kaidou.

Oden fought kaidou alone to that point and nearly won.



Says the one who thinks Law has powerful attacks.
:ihaha::ihaha:

I swear to god these law tards.


Law multiple attacks + Kidd final attack + Bombs and still can't knockout Bigmom.

Oden fought the entire battle and proceeds to Knock out Kaidou.

Get off your drugs
Bro go back to grade 1 English classes, One Piece is apparently too complicated for your brain.

Garp’s attack wouldn‘t scratch Kaido
Zoro can cut Blazing Bagua or Bajrang Gun
Running into Whitebeard’s fist is how you counter him
Cutting diamonds is harder than splitting the moon in half
:Ou_Lol:

You’re a walking meme generator
 
#49
Bro, return to grade 1 English classes. One Piece is apparently too complicated for your brain.
Bringing up things irrelevant to the discussion already proves my point that you have to rely on these things to continue the discussion.
Garp’s attack wouldn‘t scratch Kaido
I dare you to give it a go. Galaxy Impact won't do shit to him.
Bro survived a skyfall in base form.
:ihaha:



Zoro can cut Blazing Bagua or Bajrang Gun
Law fans entering Haki discussion.
:risicheck::risitexcla:


Running into Whitebeard’s fist is how you counter him
:ihaha:
QUOTE me I'll wait.


Cutting diamonds is harder than splitting the moon in half
*impressive with one-piece standards.

You sure I'm not the one who got trouble reading?
:ihaha::ihaha:


You’re a walking meme generator
You're out of arguments my blud. Insults are your only way out.

:shame:
 
#50
Bringing up things irrelevant to the discussion already proves my point that you have to rely on these things to continue the discussion.

I dare you to give it a go. Galaxy Impact won't do shit to him.
Bro survived a skyfall in base form.
:ihaha:




Law fans entering Haki discussion.
:risicheck::risitexcla:



:ihaha:
QUOTE me I'll wait.



*impressive with one-piece standards.

You sure I'm not the one who got trouble reading?
:ihaha::ihaha:



You're out of arguments my blud. Insults are your only way out.

:shame:
Yes, the dude who suddenly brought up Law to the discussion is lecturing me about staying on topic.

My blud is still trying to weasel his way out of his moon take LMFAOOO

Ngl that gave me a good laugh:vistalaugh:

Dude trying to take you seriously is a waste of time. Insults are the only way to go for your takes most of the time. I pray that I can a semi-decent opinion from you in the near future.
 
#51
Yes, the dude who suddenly brought up Law to the discussion is lecturing me about staying on topic.

My blud is still trying to weasel his way out of his moon take LMFAOOO

Ngl that gave me a good laugh:vistalaugh:

Dude trying to take you seriously is a waste of time. Insults are the only way to go for your takes most of the time. I pray that I can a semi-decent opinion from you in the near future.
So no real arguments.
:ihaha::ihaha:
It's understandable blud. Take you L and log out for today.
 
#56
Tf are you talking about?
Huge DC is highly associated with strong attacks, is Hakai weak for you?

Galaxy Impact would heavily damage Kaido lol. Oda didn’t let any of the BBP take direct hits from Garp’s haki attacks. Shiryu was gimping from a hakiless throw, even Kuzan did not take any Galaxy-themed attacks. Pizarro’s real body wasn’t hit so that more than likely mitigated the damage.

Oden is capped at g4 Luffy‘s level of performance, which was a solid high-diff. Just look at the clear parallels of their defeats. That’s what their extended fight would look like.


I mean talk about creating your own happiness, living in La La Land?
:Ou_Lol:
I made a poll and majority had luffy's over kong gun over garp's galaxy divide attack.

It's never said there is any damage mitigation in case of Pizarro. He directly endured garp's attack.
 
#57
I made a poll and majority had luffy's over kong gun over garp's galaxy divide attack.

It's never said there is any damage mitigation in case of Pizarro. He directly endured garp's attack.
He’s actually a gigantic target, his fruit would suck ass if he takes 100% of the damage.

Let’s see how Pizarro will lose, if they’ll target his real body then it means that there is damage mitigation, otherwise they should just keep targeting the island.
 
#59
We will see but most ranked luffy's attack above garp's. Same in fanverse forums also.


I disagree, let’s that end here. Oda didn’t even let Kuzan or Shiryu take a Galaxy Impact head-on. Shiryu was gimping from a hakiless slam, so there’s clear inconsistency at play since he’s supposed to be decently stronger than Pizarro bare minimum. Can’t imagine what Shiryu’s reaction would be when taking a Galaxy Divide if he’s already woozy from a simple throw.

Galaxy attacks are also visually way more impressive than OKG, the barrier haki effect is insane. Regardless, this was also old Garp so keep that in mind.
 
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