Speculations So have Smoker, Hina and Tashigi been completely passed over in favor of the SWORD Marines?

#83
If you can’t wrap your head around the fact that Koby will be a top-tier by EoS then you might as well drop the manga now because you’ll be disappointed. He might really beat Kuzan tbh, don’t see any other dude beating the latter. Garp and Roger parallel vs Rocks crew parallel.
 
#84
Hina will never do anything other than pleasure Smoker.
Tashigi will never do anything other than cry.
Smoker will comeback stronger and beat someone. Will he have a huge role? Idk. But he'll be relevant.
 
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#88
That was Koby pre-powerup, dude got the Impact moves in his arsenal now. It’s 99% acoc
I don´t think that changes the fact that his speed and durability feats still aren´t great. In Oda´s mind, Koby wasn´t fit to really challenge Hancock or any of her sisters, and in pirate island, he still isn´t fit to really *fight* Kuzan, Shiryu or even the weaker Blackbeard commanders, in a 1v1, it was all Garp. if he was injured like Smoker was at the end of PH, I don´t see how he beats Doffy.

At the very least, Koby at the time of PH does no better then Smoker did.
 
#89
I don´t think that changes the fact that his speed and durability feats still aren´t great. In Oda´s mind, Koby wasn´t fit to really challenge Hancock or any of her sisters, and in pirate island, he still isn´t fit to really *fight* Kuzan, Shiryu or even the weaker Blackbeard commanders, in a 1v1, it was all Garp. if he was injured like Smoker was at the end of PH, I don´t see how he beats Doffy.

At the very least, Koby at the time of PH does no better then Smoker did.
Oh yeah, Smoker was definitely above Koby during PH. Tbf to Koby though, he did manage to avoid Boa’s petrification for far longer compared to Blackbeard’s goons. The goons got one shotted instantly, Koby also got a little bit of hype with the Rocky Port lore and hero title. Blackbeard was fine leaving, with Koby as the compensation.
 
#92
I think the case of smoker joining the S.hs just got higher now that Rock of all people say Garp should of been a pirate. Roger wanted Garp to join him too. And to show how Luffy can be refactoring better is if he can get his former Marine rival to join his crew.
Would be one of those additions that will fit in seamlessly as well given we already very familiar with him.
His timing for joining is a bit of a iffy but reckon we'd see him again whenever the fight SHs v BB Pirates happens as there is already some kind of build up with him and Aokiji from Punk Hazard.
Could also be that he doesn't necessarily join but allies with the SHs instead. I can 100% see him fighting alongside the SHs against the WG during the final war.
 
#93
Would be one of those additions that will fit in seamlessly as well given we already very familiar with him.
His timing for joining is a bit of a iffy but reckon we'd see him again whenever the fight SHs v BB Pirates happens as there is already some kind of build up with him and Aokiji from Punk Hazard.
Could also be that he doesn't necessarily join but allies with the SHs instead. I can 100% see him fighting alongside the SHs against the WG during the final war.
Yeah, 100% he gonna be an alley against the WG. Just suck he and Tashigi didnt see the gorosei true forms yet. Would of cast more doubts for them on why are we following these demons who are willing go this far to destroy and kill?
 
#94
It’s probably too late for Smoker and Tashigi to make a comeback. I think Oda gave up on them after Punk Hazard. Even if he did come back the power up would have to be ridiculous for him to remain relevant. Smoker is not young like Koby so his potential was never going to be that high to begin with.
 
#95
It’s probably too late for Smoker and Tashigi to make a comeback. I think Oda gave up on them after Punk Hazard. Even if he did come back the power up would have to be ridiculous for him to remain relevant. Smoker is not young like Koby so his potential was never going to be that high to begin with.
Learn to read brother.

Kuzan saved Smoker at the end of Punk Hazard.

Kuzan doesn't have a role in the story or appear again (only gets two brief mentions) until the arc we just finished.

Smoker gets mentioned and shown at the end of the arc after Dressrosa, reflecting on what occured/what he partially influenced in it, getting sent to THE PLACE that's the subject of the arc that just ended to see a specific person.

Koby, my favorite marine since chapter two, who I was praying to join the main story, gets jackshit until this arc that just ended, except for maybe just under 19 pages of content (max) to establish his existence and where he'll be when he finally gets a story.

In between the end of PH and the current part of the story, both Smoker and Koby in two separate OP movies overseen by Oda had large roles consistent with their portrayal in series, and in Smoker's case alongside other major players in the series; once again, Oda approved and in line with the story itself.

Where did we last see Smoker? We saw Tashigi and the PH kids in the last arc, and we saw Smoker at the very end of the last arc (aside from a single flashback panel) riding his devil fruit powered motorcycle across the ocean, dragging a mysterious box behind him, traveling to where Koby and Tashigi are to be informed about everything that's happened in that arc, which includes the actions of Kuzan.

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Why would Smoker appear in the main story again before:

The other main marine Koby reappears for a substantial role

-The place he's traveling to is finally put in the story meaning he doesn't spoil anything

-Any Marines aside from two others in the Yonko saga appear for significant roles as they're on the back burner as a faction

-His friend as established when Kuzan first mentions Garp and Smoker on Long Ring Long Land, when Smoker and Kuzan share their final pre-timeskip scene together, and Kuzan comes back to save his life and foreshadow Smoker's future with a clear line of dialogue that earlier in the same arc was told to Smoker by another character


You can't answer any of these in a way that isn't total deflection or totally illogical.
 
#96
I think Smoker will be stronger than Roger and even I am not ready, when Gear 5 appeared I cried, when Smoker shows up I will faint
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The workouts I had while listening to the Onigashima battles weekly were legendary, but they are nothing compared to what's coming
 
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