Multiverse General Spiritual matter versus physical matter

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Shinigami's bodies are not default ghosts, like they are quite dense and normal people can touch and feel them.
And i don't really remember any shinigami going through walls like default ghosts, they don't have intangibility
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Yeah but we see what happens when he tries to interact with Prometheus even using haki.
Cuz Prometheus is perfect logia, he has no real body to hurt, Ichigo himself wasn't able to hurt sand logia hollow in Hueco Mundo aswell

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SandHollow's name Runuganga.
 
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And i don't really remember any shinigami going through walls like default ghosts, they don't have intangibility

Cuz Prometheus is perfect logia, he has no real body to hurt
neither do the hollow ghosts from perona's devil fruit.

Ichigo himself wasn't able to hurt sand logia hollow in Hueco Mundo as well
he is not a sand logia but a spiritual being that is made out of sand plus wasn't he defeated by renji?
 
#8

neither do the hollow ghosts from perona's devil fruit.

he is not a sand logia but a spiritual being that is made out of sand plus wasn't he defeated by renji?
I still don't see how her body goes through a wall on panel, it could be some sort of portal, teleportation thing, like you can see something like black hole behind Rukia. And it's literally first chapters, retcons are possible.

And prometheus is spiritual being made of fire, they are similar. Tbh i don't remember how they beat Runuganga but he is sand logia for me.
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Does that means Perona can give us negative Ichigo?:risisweat:
 
#9
I still don't see how her body goes through a wall on panel, it could be some sort of portal, teleportation thing, like you can see something like black hole behind Rukia. And it's literally first chapters, retcons are possible.
were there any official statements saying that it is retcon?

And prometheus is spiritual being made of fire, they are similar.
true but logia users aren't spiritual beings.
Tbh i don't remember how they beat Runuganga but he is sand logia for me.
renji with him using fire kido spell.

Does that means Perona can give us negative Ichigo?
in his human form probably.
 
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