Controversial Why did Thriller Bark Forums fail so spectacularly as an Orojackson successor but Worstgen succeeded?

Man the OP theorist community really fell off hard after Dressrosa
True. The theories were the coolest part of the forums around 2015. I remember being amazed when I read a theory from Beck in OJ. Celestial had some good ones. He even nailed the prediction that "Blackbeard is aiming for the world". The theorists definitely drew a lot of people to the forums. For example, I recently came across this post from Topi =>
Talking about Celestial, I still remember I joined the forum because I saw his post about "Pudding is actually evil" + evidences, back then it wasn't confirmed yet that Pudding was tricking Sanji. That post really made me happy lol, because irl I was anti Pudding and being ganged by some classmates that are Pudding4Nakamatards.
 
The forum design and structure was more compelling to new users than TB. TB always felt a bit slow, while here you had people talking bout panels or posting memes 24/7.

Powerscaling threads and spoilers chat got as active as it was on OJ really quickly (providers baiting in spoilers waiting room also helped). There was also more theorists back then, so you had a lot of people talking seriously whilst a lot were shitposting.

Also, I'd say One Piece had more die hard fans back then, so they were perhaps the main reason the forum was active from the start. If WorstGen didnt exist, most here wouldnt even discuss mangas on any other forum.

Bogard had an excelent momentum when he decided to create WG.
 
On top of that, not only did Oda stated that he'll change the story if a popular theory is too accurate, he said he makes things up as he goes and it showed. The narrative of Oda being an all-knowing genius that fueled so much of the theory hype fell apart.
Oda also admitted that he doesn't plan things ahead too much and leaves open ends so he can come back to them later which seems as if he'd been planning it all along
 
I think they were focused on OP role play and mafia , they werent keen on heavy activity after OJ was shut .

Ya Bogard missed big time to capatalise on OJ’s strong userbase but there are former members here but activity just dies out after spoiler week .
 
We have Monkey as our lead theorist and Beta as our top liked poster:ronalugh: And you wonder why this forum is on life support
The most insane datum in all of this is that the only One Piece arcs I don't have a fragmentary knowledge of are Water 7 and Enies Lobby, which made me grow an interest for this series almost 20 years ago, when I was a kid.

I posted >120,000 in 3 years without even reading/having read most of the chapters, except for contained key panels. The two arcs I just mentioned are the only exception.

I made extensive use of my logical and visual-spatial IQ to build structures upon structures from posts coming from posters who were well received, sometimes supported by panels.

I exploited people's existing manga knowledge to build my own manga knowledge without caring enough about the to-me-unknown probability of error contained in people's existing knowledge.

It was a fast and reliable method for me to quickly muster enough material to take part to basic or even advanced discussions, although not the most meticulous and precise when it comes to the likelihood of the knowledge being correct, but I wasn't passionate enough to check by myself and do research beyond building my knowledge that way.
 
The most insane datum in all of this is that the only One Piece arcs I don't have a fragmentary knowledge of are Water 7 and Enies Lobby, which made me grow an interest for this series almost 20 years ago, when I was a kid.

I posted >120,000 in 3 years without even reading/having read most of the chapters, except for contained key panels. The two arcs I just mentioned are the only exception.

I made extensive use of my logical and visual-spatial IQ to build structures upon structures from posts coming from posters who were well received, sometimes supported by panels.

I exploited people's existing manga knowledge to build my own manga knowledge without caring enough about the to-me-unknown probability of error contained in people's existing knowledge.

It was a fast and reliable method for me to quickly muster enough material to take part to basic or even advanced discussions, although not the most meticulous and precise when it comes to the likelihood of the knowledge being correct, but I wasn't passionate enough to check by myself and do research beyond building my knowledge that way.
I need one of these now =>:Luffy_Roll::Luffy_Smoke:
 
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The most insane datum in all of this is that the only One Piece arcs I don't have a fragmentary knowledge of are Water 7 and Enies Lobby, which made me grow an interest for this series almost 20 years ago, when I was a kid.

I posted >120,000 in 3 years without even reading/having read most of the chapters, except for contained key panels. The two arcs I just mentioned are the only exception.

I made extensive use of my logical and visual-spatial IQ to build structures upon structures from posts coming from posters who were well received, sometimes supported by panels.

I exploited people's existing manga knowledge to build my own manga knowledge without caring enough about the to-me-unknown probability of error contained in people's existing knowledge.

It was a fast and reliable method for me to quickly muster enough material to take part to basic or even advanced discussions, although not the most meticulous and precise when it comes to the likelihood of the knowledge being correct, but I wasn't passionate enough to check by myself and do research beyond building my knowledge that way.
tldr; Wanked Zoro like it was a 9 to 5 and pushed failed theories like it was a religious duty on a forum that heavily rewarded such behavior.
 
99% of the theories made got shattered in 2015-2019. There was also youtubers competing with each other for content and claiming theories as theirs, clogging the system. On top of that, not only did Oda stated that he'll change the story if a popular theory is too accurate, he said he makes things up as he goes and it showed. The narrative of Oda being an all-knowing genius that fueled so much of the theory hype fell apart.

In Japan, popular theories during PH to WCI that Oda might have changed are:
-Lucci being a beast pirate
-BM having the witch fruit
-The final warlord scarred Fujitora
-Shanks is a bad guy
-G5
As fans:

- It's important to understand that a writer can't just change their story on a whim every now and then. I'll explain why if you ask.
- It's also important to understand that planning is not the only action of good storytelling. A good storyteller is one that can improvize things and keep the continuity.
- We must not trust everything that Oda is telling us.

People tend to focus on the planification of One Piece that is actually on a MUCH LARGER SCALE than any fan (at least in my knowledge) thinks, which prevents everyone to also praise Oda on his improv skills.

As for Oda not being an actual storytelling genius... I still ponder the question
 
The most insane datum in all of this is that the only One Piece arcs I don't have a fragmentary knowledge of are Water 7 and Enies Lobby, which made me grow an interest for this series almost 20 years ago, when I was a kid.

I posted >120,000 in 3 years without even reading/having read most of the chapters, except for contained key panels. The two arcs I just mentioned are the only exception.

I made extensive use of my logical and visual-spatial IQ to build structures upon structures from posts coming from posters who were well received, sometimes supported by panels.

I exploited people's existing manga knowledge to build my own manga knowledge without caring enough about the to-me-unknown probability of error contained in people's existing knowledge.

It was a fast and reliable method for me to quickly muster enough material to take part to basic or even advanced discussions, although not the most meticulous and precise when it comes to the likelihood of the knowledge being correct, but I wasn't passionate enough to check by myself and do research beyond building my knowledge that way.
Who inspired Aizen to be the big mastermind, @Shimotsuki Fenaker or @Finalbeta ?
 
for context Beta is like 28 years old so 20 years ago he was like merely 8

now read the first para of his post to comprehend his greatness :smart::smart:
I re-read the arcs several times growing up because I had gotten attached but when I tried to go further in the story it came off as uninteresting to me due to its slow building pace.

The only manga I've ever read entirely is Hunter x Hunter, but Togashi is too slow due to his severe, chronic back and hip pain and overall creating manga has both an immense physical and mental toll on him.
 
TB was OJ’s chosen successor but I never really understood why tbh. It was a close knit mafia community for the most part and most of their staff had lost all interest in discussing OP by that point. Internal drama just completely ripped that place apart. Half of their members ended up here and others either left the greater OP community or found a new home. WG was always going to be more appealing to the majority of OJ’s user base since most people here actually still talk about One Piece.
 
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