Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1158 Spoilers Discussion

Is Harald above the OG Yonkou's?


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yo what if Garling actually found the missing road poneglyph on god valley?
nah

it was in fishman island for years and years. Along with the soyboy apology one.
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What if the attack on Mary Geose was by Blackbeard, we saw Le Feet scoping out the Redline.
What if the Blackbeard pirates used Saturn's face via Devron to sneak in, steal a rubbing of the last poneglyph and clear out?
the man with the burn scar has it
 
Why wouldn’t he be? Loki has a world ending DF and Harald was fruitless. Also for gene merchants such as Harald and Loki, Loki is pretty much gifted Harald’s Haki by default.

Yall thought I was kidding when I said Loki was our first god tier lmfao. Fruitless Loki (Harald) is already stronger than every pirate to have ever lived.
Why did Luffy confidently say he'll beat up Loki after Luffy asked Loki to join his crews if Loki caused trouble? Do you think current Luffy is also stronger than Harald?
 
This brings him closer to his goal which was always Mary Geose centric. Nothing fits Doffy more than continuing to use the system he hates to advance himself.

I think him getting recruited is likely and he’ll be a third party element down the road.
Is that true? Even as a warlord, Doffy was hardly trying to get the government to see him a real reliable ally, he spent half of his time pre ts talking shit, putting his shoes on the table etc, just a general lack of respect. I can´t imagine him having the discipline to work in a much more proper form for the government, showing loyalty, kneeling to Imu etc. At the end of the day, Doffy is kind of childish. He wants people to bow to *him*, he wants revenge.

Also, I think it would be bad for the government as well. They made a deal with Doflamingo, in Punk hazard he clearly violated his terms, but they still tried to help him out. Then in Dressrosa, he just openly betrayed the government. The government trusting Doflamingo for a greater role would just be goofy incompetence. And this is ignoring that someone like Garling or any of the true believers of the CD should genuinely despise what Homing did, and what Doffy did even more. It barely makes sense that they agreed for him to be a warlord in the first place
 
He isn´t currently going after Teach though? He´s still just monitoring his movements, which he has been doing since forever.


Of course he cared about getting them. We know for a fact that Shanks currently wants the One piece. The flashback with Gaban was 14 years ago, obviously he has changed his goals now.

What Roger whispered to Shanks was probably something sentimental and personal, given the fact that Shanks was crying. Why would it be a secret plan to get the One Piece if Roger himself wanted his son to find the OP? There isn´t really any reason to think Shanks knows some secret about Laughtale or Imu(though maybe Shamrock or whatever told him later on), nor is there really any reason to think Shanks was waiting for Nika to awaken to get the OP.
He went to wano because he though BB would have been there so he more than monitoring him .
The question is why maybe it simple as he wanted to help make sure BB don't hurt luffy afterward but then would very unintresting so i hoping for more.
Yes he change his goal now but he only change it after luffy awaken his DF and we saw in the same chapter with him thinking about the DF and time he spend with him .
Him saying let go and get the OP after that flashback in his mind obviously will have some connection to luffy and his DF .
I doubt is something sentimental only roger told him but time will tell the same thing with him being the destined child .
Also i not saying he know a secret about Imu i am saying the fact that he know about Imu show he know more about the wold than buggy and if fact 99.99% of the wolrd.
It won't make sense he became a CD get the mark of the abyss and did not get any more into about the world in his time there.
 
chill its about the harald-kaido argument.
How much longer are yall going to be baited by such a retarded lie lmfao. Loki called Saint Shanks a coward, imagine Loki even joking about the guy who legit beat him being a coward. Lol

“I know I lost to him, so let me make myself look like shit by calling the guy who beat me fair and square a coward”

Nah, Saint Shanks gets swatted like a fly by Harald, let alone Woki who can probably solo 5-6 Saint Shanks’s. Saint Shanks captured Loki through cowardice, stop pretending to be a retard.
Genuinely curious if you think the power disparity is that large, what means do you think Shanks used to capture Loki?
 
How much longer are yall going to be baited by such a retarded lie lmfao. Loki called Saint Shanks a coward, imagine Loki even joking about the guy who legit beat him being a coward. Lol

“I know I lost to him, so let me make myself look like shit by calling the guy who beat me fair and square a coward”

Nah, Saint Shanks gets swatted like a fly by Harald, let alone Woki who can probably solo 5-6 Saint Shanks’s. Saint Shanks captured Loki through cowardice, stop pretending to be a retard.




He prob got locked captured in seastone chains as opposed to an outright loss
that being said, the fact thats he was captured most likely isnt stronger than his dad just yet.
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Genuinely curious if you think the power disparity is that large, what means do you think Shanks used to capture Loki?
seastone
regardless I dont think he would be caught if he was levels stronger than shanks
simply isnt the case.
 

Elder Lee Hung

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Genuinely curious if you think the power disparity is that large, what means do you think Shanks used to capture Loki?
Dorry and Broggy fought equally with the Gorosei, and Dorry and Broggy were both simultaneously defeated by Mr. 3.

Poison man probably used the same poison and trickery he used against Bartolomeo. Mr. 3 probably taught Saint Shanks how to use cowardly tactics to take down someone far stronger than him. Again there’s zero way Saint Shanks pushes Harald to mid diff, let along goddamn Loki lmfao.
 
Dorry and Broggy fought equally with the Gorosei, and Dorry and Broggy were both simultaneously defeated by Mr. 3.

Poison man probably used the same poison and trickery he used against Bartolomeo. Mr. 3 probably taught Saint Shanks how to use cowardly tactics to take down someone far stronger than him. Again there’s zero way Saint Shanks pushes Harald to mid diff, let along goddamn Loki lmfao.
The gas you are giving loki right now in an arc where you know damn sure oda is going to have luffy outdawg him ......
 
Anyone else got bit bored with this flashback? Sure this flashback reveals on past big dogs: Xebec, Roger, Whitebeard, Garling, Harald etc
But Oda always puts the flashback in the worst possible timing

I want to see current timeline again, seeing Imunko fighting against Elbaf, seeing whatever happening in Mariejois atm
 




He prob got locked captured in seastone chains as opposed to an outright loss
that being said, the fact thats he was captured most likely isnt stronger than his dad just yet.
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seastone
regardless I dont think he would be caught if he was levels stronger than shanks
simply isnt the case.
This shanks we talking about won't be surprise if just straight up beat loki.
The fanbase though kid would at least get in a hit or 2 since he now come from beating a yonko in tag team and he get one shot by shanks .
Don't put nothing past Oda when it comes to the golden boy .
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
The gas you are giving loki right now in an arc where you know damn sure oda is going to have luffy outdawg him ......
After Egghead, Luffy is lucky if he’ll even be top 5 in Elbaph. Luffy wasn’t even top 7 in Egghead, he was an absolute disgrace.

I will hear no grief from the people who never in one million years thought Harald could match Xebec and be stronger than Whitebeard. I am right as always.
 
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