Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1158 Spoilers Discussion

Is Harald above the OG Yonkou's?


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It's not something that is "used" like a special power, it's simply what happens when two peak ACoC users clash. Xebec has had two opportunities to show it at this point, and still nothing.
Your silly point is already invalid when two stronger ACoC users than base Luffy clashed with each other. Even you know pushing base Luffy above Xebec would be true insanity. :milaugh:
 
Your silly point is already invalid when two stronger ACoC users than base Luffy clashed with each other. Even you know pushing base Luffy above Xebec would be true insanity. :milaugh:
It isn't base Luffy though, CoC is as strong as the user.

And I've already put forward the possibility that Harald could be the issue, if Xebec skysplits with Roger on God Valley then that would confirm it.
 

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Blackbeard at Drum Island: Moooooooooom I'm hoooooooooomeeee
LMAOOOOOOO EXACTLY! Hiriluk and Doc Q are related/connected too, I swear! *puts on tinfoil hat* I'M NOT CRAZY, I SWEAR! *laughs manically and runs out of the room*

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Gave me a little bit of Noland and Calgara vibes. Only that they didn't see each other again. Hopefully Rocks and Harald will find a more positive ending.

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"They will surely meet again..."

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It isn't base Luffy though, CoC is as strong as the user.

And I've already put forward the possibility that Harald could be the issue, if Xebec skysplits with Roger on God Valley then that would confirm it.
Sure.

- Those two made a Better Clash than Kaido and Luffy 16 years ago;

- now made bigger lightnings than Imu;

- not to mention this Is prime Xebec not defeating a conflicted pre-Nika Luffy too.


But one of them may be weaker than 1026 Luffy.
 
Sure.

- Those two made a Better Clash than Kaido and Luffy 16 years ago;

- now made bigger lightnings than Imu;

- not to mention this Is prime Xebec not defeating a conflicted pre-Nika Luffy too.


But one of them may be weaker than 1026 Luffy.
They didn't create a better clash, their clash was vastly inferior.

Lightning scale has never mattered, not sure who told you that it did.

What are you talking about with "conflicted" Luffy?

Pre-G5 Luffy is a solid top tier, not some random fodder like you keep insinuating.
 
They didn't create a better clash, their clash was vastly inferior.
The Author expliclty hyped It as superior.

Kaido and Luffy didn't even reach Onigashima's highest floor.

Lightning scale has never mattered, not sure who told you that it did.
Obv, since It proves you wrong.

Now making a better thing than Imu Is not relevant lol.

What are you talking about wit "conflicted" Luffy?
You are saying Harald is weaker than 1026 Luffy. Harald was conflicted, so you are saying Xebec failed to defate a conflicted 1026 Luffy as if It was a better take than Xebec himself being at 1026's Luffy level :milaugh:.

Pre-G5 Luffy is a solid top tier, not some random fodder like you keep insinuating.
1026 Is a strong fighter.

I am pointing out the absurdity of putting him near or even above someone stronger than prime WB.
 
Lol, the Author expliclty hyped It as superior.

Kaido and Luffy didn't even reach Onigashima's highest floor.

Obv, since It proves you wrong.

Now making a better thing than Imu Is not relevant lol.

You are saying Harald in weaker than 1026 Luffy. Harald was conflicted, so you are saying Xebec failed to defate a conflicted 1026 Luffy as if It was a better take than Xebec himself being at 1026's Luffy level :milaugh:.

1026 Is a strong fighter.

I am point out the absurdity of putting him near or even above someone stronger than prime WB.
The author explicitly hyped it as magnitudes inferior by virtue of not making them skysplit.

Kaido and Luffy's clash reached dozens of kilometers into the sky, split the sky dozens of kilometers wide and changed the weather, but sure, sending some fodder flying is superior.

Larger lightning = stronger has never been a thing, you've literally just made it up.

Xebec was also conflicted, they were both holding back so it is impossible to scale from that fight.

Harald is not stronger than prime Whitebeard.
 

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Doc Q's gonna look like the good guy in this fight since Chopper killed Hiriluk :risisweat:
LMFAO TRUE, the SHs really were demons all along! I mean they took down Moria who was trying to save Wano from Kaido after all! Luffy freed all those prisoners of Impel Down too and helped many villains achieve their dreams too!

Chopper the "bad guy" in a fight with Doc Q would be hilariously and epically ironic.

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Harald is not stronger than prime Whitebeard.
You have to love how Pirate fans are suddenly pretending there is nuance when it comes to the power level of a subordinate lmfao.

Whitebeard is Rocks’s subordinate, Harald is Rocks’s equal, you would that settles the issue for zero IQ Pirate fans but suddenly being a subordinate is irrelevant? Lmfao
 
The author explicitly hyped it as magnitudes inferior by virtue of not making them skysplit.
Which means: since the Skysplit I hyped got sidelined, now I am making up that the author made the clash inferior when Skysplit clashes didn't have 1/10 of the effects.

The Author literally hyped up the clash more than any other in the description.

Kaido and Luffy's clash reached dozens of kilometers into the sky, split the sky dozens of kilometers wide and changed the weather, but sure, sending some fodder flying is superior.
Yeah, knocking out everyone in a 5km radius hyped by the author is superior to fodders not even bothering.

Larger lightning = stronger has never been a thing, you've literally just made it up.
So again, "they did better than Imu with Island-wide haki range, but doesn't really matter".

How one can do better than Imu and still be considered weaker than 1026 Luffy Iisreally beyond me.

Xebec was also conflicted, they were both holding back so it is impossible to scale from that fight.
Since they both were, they were both of the same level.

Harald is not stronger than Prime Whitebeard.
You can have It ~, It's the same tbh.
 
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