Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1158 Spoilers Discussion

Is Harald above the OG Yonkou's?


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ZenZu

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It seems to me that everyone in this thread seems to unanimously agree that Harald is stronger than Roger and Whitebeard with the exception of the same 5 people who are always wrong about every other topic and have never predicted anything accurately since their reading comprehension is dogshit
No need to even go after Roger or Prime WB? Some of these dudes are arguing rooftop Luffy, Big Mom, and the rest of the Yonkou are above Harald.
 
Garp being embarrassed and not wanting to talk about God Valley means one of three things:

1. he hates that he had to team up with Roger

2. he got his ass handed to him by someone (probably Xebec)

3. he saw the atrocities of the CDs first hand and still decided to side with the government

Either way there is a huge L for Garp on the horizon @zenox
Sengoku already gave the reasons why Garp doesn't like to talk about God Valley


 
Sengoku already gave the reasons why Garp doesn't like to talk about God Valley


Oda might do a bait and switch here with Shakky. Both Roger and Rox are pro-Shakky, so the cause might be something else.

It might be some fucked up shit why Roger would team up with Garp to save Celestials (and this seems to be the case since he saved Shanks).
 
As much as I typically defend Mihawk (you know I have him equal to Roger which is insane since I think even Kaido might decisively lost to Roger extreme diff) I gotta disagree here. It's specifically worded as "But plenty already speak of them [(them = the days where Whitebeard and Roger were in their primes and reigned over the seas of the Grand Line)] as legends. Even the duel between you and Hawk-Eyes is still news to me."
It was never worded the way you think it is. Unless I saw an incorrect translation, I dunno.
He was talking about all the legendary things that happened within 22 years. That included not only Roger-Garp-Sengoku-Shiki, but also Shanks-Mihawk's days of duels. There was no "EVEN" in the translation. This is from Stephen Paul's old script =>
- Page 78 -

Whitebeard: We fought with Roger so often,
you learn to recognize faces in battle...
What happened to that funny guy with the red nose? He dead already?

Shanks: ...you mean Buggy!
Wow, that takes me back...
We went our separate ways in Loguetown,
on the day the captain died. Haven't seen him since...

<<Shanks: Come with me, Buggy!!

<<Buggy: I'd rather die than work for you, jerkwad!!!

Shanks: Sometimes the grapevine turns up rumors of him still being a pirate.

Whitebeard: It passed in the blink of eye, to me...
But plenty already speak of them as legends.
The days of the duels between you and Hawk-Eyes,
they are still fresh in my ears...
When you came from East Blue,
missing an arm... well, EVERYONE was shocked.
 
Then why did Luffy sleep for 3 days after the fight with Doflamingo?
Luffy is knocked out when the gas is taken out or pumped out ..
Because he was flying around the entire island and had to spend 30 minutes straight avoiding Doffys massive awakening attacks fighting?

No where’s near similar to his fight with Kaido where the two stayed in a small arena the whole time?
 
Because he was flying around the entire island and had to spend 30 minutes straight avoiding Doffys massive awakening attacks fighting?
And Luffy didn't do that against Kaidou?


No where’s near similar to his fight with Kaido where the two stayed in a small arena the whole time?
Luffy was flying around the island.

More elongated battle than doflamingo. More damage taken and given.
 
He was talking about all the legendary things that happened within 22 years. That included not only Roger-Garp-Sengoku-Shiki, but also Shanks-Mihawk's days of duels. There was no "EVEN" in the translation. This is from Stephen Paul's old script =>
- Page 78 -

Whitebeard: We fought with Roger so often,
you learn to recognize faces in battle...
What happened to that funny guy with the red nose? He dead already?

Shanks: ...you mean Buggy!
Wow, that takes me back...
We went our separate ways in Loguetown,
on the day the captain died. Haven't seen him since...

<<Shanks: Come with me, Buggy!!

<<Buggy: I'd rather die than work for you, jerkwad!!!

Shanks: Sometimes the grapevine turns up rumors of him still being a pirate.

Whitebeard: It passed in the blink of eye, to me...
But plenty already speak of them as legends.
The days of the duels between you and Hawk-Eyes,
they are still fresh in my ears...
When you came from East Blue,
missing an arm... well, EVERYONE was shocked.
I kind of see your point but I still believe he might have been talking about that as a separate thing from the whole "many people already speak of those days as legends" thing.
You’re comparing 5 idiots dumb enough to believe Roger is even comparable with Xebec, with a scan that literally thousands of people propagated, lmfao
Tons of people also believed ZKK would happen yet it didn't
I don't care how many people believe something, that doesn't determine whether or not it makes sense
 
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