Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1158 Spoilers Discussion

Is Harald above the OG Yonkou's?


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Yes, Mihawk’s best feat of scaring Don Krieg is certainly comparable to characters like drunk Kuzan and mega nerfed Kizaru making Yonko’s Luffy and Blackbeard shit their pants
You mean Kuzan using Blackbeard's own crew as hostages so Blackbeard didn't beat his ass?
Good point.
Paying the government is part of the contract retard. Let me know who forced Mihawk to be a warlord and work under Buggy
None of the Warlords were completely obedient soldiers. Kind of the whole reason why they got disbanded..
Nice headcanon of the guy hiding behind Buggy's shadow to survive the NW
Hiding? From who? Aramaki? That bitch was petrified just from thinking of Mihawk's pet rat.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
I didn't abandon it since Oden never did a direct clash.

We're talking about Sperm Piece here, and both of Harald's offsprings are Luffy lackeys at this point. Forget Hajrudin, even Loki is another Zoro/Sanji at this point.



Not complaining though. I'd like to see Loki train his CoC with Zoro and Sanji.
Way to completely miss the point lmfao.

The fact that we never saw a direct clash is irrelevant since Lolden factually almost killed Kaido. You completely ignored the forest for an individual tree.

Oden is direct proof that sky splitting has nothing to do with power level in any way, shape, or form.
 
Oden is direct proof that sky splitting has nothing to do with power level in any way, shape, or form.
Nope, sky splitting is the gold standard, whether you like it or not, as splitting the heavens was specifically highlighted. Every Haki feat that surpasses it, automatically has sky splitting in its pocket. If Xebec's and Harald's clash was more powerful, Oda would've highlighted it in another way, which included environmental influence that surpasses what splitting the skies did.
 
None of the Warlords were completely obedient soldiers. Kind of the whole reason why they got disbanded..
When did do anything that violated his contract? He's basically the model warlord of the bunch. He isn't a COC user like Doffy or Boa who do whatever they want and don't really listen to the government

Hiding? From who? Aramaki? That bitch was petrified just from thinking of Mihawk's pet rat.
No, Mihawk ran from vice admirals canonically. Have you not read the manga?
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Nope, sky splitting is the gold standard, whether you like it or not, as splitting the heavens was specifically highlighted. Every Haki feat that surpasses it, automatically has sky splitting in its pocket. If Xebec's and Harald's clash was more powerful, Oda would've highlighted it in another way, which included environmental influence that surpasses what splitting the skies did.
Sky splitting is a narrative tool to show a clash of equally willed individuals who are aiming for the throne. It is not a power level tool, we have seen so many silver medalists split the sky that it’s just become trivial.

If you can split the sky, you are a top contender for the throne of pirate king. As Harald never had any ambition to be the pirate king, he never split the sky because it would make zero narrative sense for him to do that. Obviously.

Harald would still fold Dodger and Whitebeard like a lawn chair with ease. You need 3 pirate kings to get the advantage over Harald.
 
Nope, sky splitting is the gold standard, whether you like it or not, as splitting the heavens was specifically highlighted. Every Haki feat that surpasses it, automatically has sky splitting in its pocket. If Xebec's and Harald's clash was more powerful, Oda would've highlighted it in another way, which included environmental influence that surpasses what splitting the skies did.
something like blowing everyone away within 5 kilometers and knocking them unconscious at least

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Sky splitting is a narrative tool to show a clash of equally willed individuals who are aiming for the throne. It is not a power level tool, we have seen so many silver medalists split the sky that it’s just become trivial.
Of equally willed individuals with a sufficiently high power level, hence it was only shown among great pirates (Shanks/WB, Kaido/BM, Roger/WB, Kaido/Luffy after Luffy further refined his Haki).

Xebec's and Harald's Haki was even stronger than that? Fine, display it as sky splitting and then some, with Oda narrating the clash in a way to highlight how it was unparalleled by our current standards/knowledge. Rather than the clash just having black lightning emitting.

something like blowing everyone away within 5 kilometers and knocking them unconscious at least
Roger and Whitebeard clashing in the middle of the island had the seas beyond the island shaking, tilting the Moby Dick and propelling people at the edge of the island across the air.
 
Of equally willed individuals with a sufficiently high power level, hence it was only shown among great pirates (Shanks/WB, Kaido/BM, Roger/WB, Kaido/Luffy after Luffy further refined his Haki).

Xebec's and Harald's Haki was even stronger than that? Fine, display it as sky splitting and then some, with Oda narrating the clash in a way to highlight how it was unparalleled by our current standards/knowledge. Rather than the clash just having black lightning emitting.


Roger and Whitebeard clashing in the middle of the island had the seas beyond the island shaking, tilting the Moby Dick and propelling people at the edge of the island across the air.
so that clash is about the same strength and harald and xebec's, because it was a very small island
 
He isn't, that's why he never caused problems for the government like Doffy or Hancock did. It's why Oda has him hiding under Buggy and working for him

And why he hasn't shown it in 1100 chapters

Either way, Mihawk, one of the most well behaved warlords payed his taxes, denying this is just cope
He's above Shanks and Issho yet he doesn't even have Conq Haki :crazwhat:
Imagine if he DID have it
Dude might be above Xebec then
 
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