Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER: 1158: ROCKS VS HARALD

[dirtyLarry]

Biggest takeaway from the chapter:

Literally everything we have "known" about the "surpremely evil Rocks pirates" has just been some WG propaganda.

In reality they were like the bit more wild counterpart of the SH pirates.

Whatever happened on God Valley broke them and put some of them on a very dark path (Kaido, BM).

 

[thisnewtechnique]

What a clash... Worldwide level

 

[[No Name]]

Anyone with a cubari link

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Anyone with a cubari link

https://cubari.moe/read/gist/cmF3L2...1bmstcmVjb3Jkcy9tYWluL2N1YmFyaS5qc29u/1158/1/
You're welcome

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Who are all those 1 star voters? what's the deal?

 

[Ven437]

Whatever happened on God Valley broke them and put some of them on a very dark path (Kaido, BM).

Kaido almost died in god valley and saved by mythical zoan fruit. It would make sense his outlook at strength above everything gets reinforced by that experience

BM hadnt changed. As a teen she was terrorizing kingdoms and forcing others to bend to her will. Kidnapping husbands and popping children like popcorn. Xebec was js him he put every known great pirate including WSM on a leash. Once that leash was off she was back to her old ways

 

[ZenZu]

Simpiece

It's cuckpiece.

Ray cucking Roger and Shakky, Roger cucking Gloriosa, Whitebeard cucking Stussy, Harald cucking Rocks.

 

[Tensub]

So Harald was at god valley? Just seems like a massive retcon to me.

There is no retcon because the GV incident has been shrouded in mystery. It would only be a retcon if we knew the full detail about the incident.

 

[ZippySpace]

It was a tradeoff for her strength. Rocks Big Mom is a fun character but Fat Mom is definitely stronger and feels like it too.

I get it that she traded off her sanity and mental capacity for gluttony-induced strength but fat Big Mom quickly became a one-joke-character when we got to Wano. These Rocks Pirate flashbacks show a different side to Big Mom that make her a more interesting and entertaining character to follow, she's obviously not a good guy pirate but she used to be a more level-headed woman than the obsese psycho granny she is today.

It'd be cool if the lava bath at Onigashima shaved off some pounds and knocked some sense into the woman. A mentally competent Big Mom would be the most terrifying emperor.

 

[thisnewtechnique]

Somehow this a L chapter for Usopp

 

[ZenZu]

I get it that she traded off her sanity and mental capacity for gluttony-induced strength but fat Big Mom quickly became a one-joke-character when we got to Wano. These Rocks Pirate flashbacks show a different side to Big Mom that make her a more interesting and entertaining character to follow, she's obviously not a good guy pirate but she used to be a more level-headed woman than the obsese psycho granny she is today.

It'd be cool if the lava bath at Onigashima shaved off some pounds and knocked some sense into the woman. A mentally competent Big Mom would be the most terrifying emperor.

Yonkou had to feel larger than life, in particular Kaidou and Big Mom were abominations. That's why Oda introduced her as a complete disgusting monster.

This only works because it's after the fact. It's cool to see Big Mom when she was "normal" but there was no shot she would make the cut this way into the current timeline.

In a way these flashback characters really feel like they were playing house as Akainu once said about WB. There are pros and cons, the pros are the top tiers were actually interacting with one another unlike today, the cons are it feels mickey mouse, whereas there's a lot more weight to a top tier even making a minor move today, they're not just running around being buddy buddy with each other.

 

[Jokerr]

Shame Oda refused to deliver with current Linlin. I'm still bitter about it.

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Because we all know that just like all the others she'll be just another re-use of Nami's model.

We need a Big Mom redo, I love this pocket she’s in right now.

 

[Unlimited Rulebook]

Mid chapter but it is a setup chapter. So, it is understandable.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I get it that she traded off her sanity and mental capacity for gluttony-induced strength but fat Big Mom quickly became a one-joke-character when we got to Wano. These Rocks Pirate flashbacks show a different side to Big Mom that make her a more interesting and entertaining character to follow, she's obviously not a good guy pirate but she used to be a more level-headed woman than the obsese psycho granny she is today.

It'd be cool if the lava bath at Onigashima shaved off some pounds and knocked some sense into the woman. A mentally competent Big Mom would be the most terrifying emperor.

The vs yonko saga is over, they won't return

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

If Shakky had full on Love Sickness, she'd already be dead.

Shakky and Rayeligh already made love/made Mihawk, that's why Rayleigh isn't showing up.

The Rocks stealth kid talk is also stealth foreshadowing for Mihawk.

 

[Mathias]

Best chapter of the year. I didn't care about Rocks before now. Harald is great too.

The ending is cute but it feels like we'll never see Shanks' mommy from the front


Next chapter will fix Roger's aura because he lost all of it in these flashback chapters.

 

[Roo]

@park_min young @Ven437

"Law isn't WB's parallel"

Yet Oda literally has him act like Law around Luffy and Kid lmao.

 

[Sentinel]

@park_min young @Ven437

"Law isn't WB's parallel"

Yet Oda literally has him act like Law around Luffy and Kid lmao.

Who is gonna be the old legend Kidd?

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Who is gonna be the old legend Kidd?

Xebec...
Give me Kid vibe when Roger was standing beside him...

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Xebec...
Give me Kid vibe when Roger was standing beside him...

Isn't he the old gen Teach?

 

[Roo]

Xebec...
Give me Kid vibe when Roger was standing beside him...

It would be cool if Kid is like Luffy, a guy who inherited his will meanwhile Ace and Teach are the sons of the actual characters.

But idk what the fuck Oda is planning with Kid lol. I just thought it was cool Oda clearly has WB act like the Law of the trio. A guy who sees himself above the silliness but Roger (Luffy) likes to hang out with