Controversial General Political Discussion

[Bisoromi Bear]

In this case (specifically) I think the censoreship is ok.

Are we children that a company or government may decide what is and is not appropriate to see as an adult?
This is one of hierarchical societies' main issues: adults accepting the role of children and considering other adults to be their parents.

But, if this is the wake up call some people need to understand the atrocities of Israel, be my guest.

You want to see the starved Yanomami children from the Brazilian Amazon forest, who officially are and uncontacted/isolated tribe yet have their territory de facto controlled by armed gangs? Does it take those photos for you to understand that there are more than one urgent genocides at the same time?
Of course you won't see millions of twitter users retweeting them. The mainstream has clear priorities when it comes to whose lives do and don't matter.

 

[Logiko]

Are we children that a company or government may decide what is and is not appropriate to see as an adult?
This is one of hierarchical societies' main issues: adults accepting the role of children and considering other adults to be their parents.

You are right.

You want to see the starved Yanomami children from the Brazilian Amazon forest, who officially are and uncontacted/isolated tribe yet have their territory de facto controlled by armed gangs? Does it take those photos for you to understand that there are more than one urgent genocides at the same time?

Not me no. I can spread my empathy very easily.

For other it can be difficult not to picture the problem.

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Also mate, do not compare a genocide created by an ethno-state who is doing a country scaled colonisation and ppartheid with war crimes of armed gangs.

You are welcomed to share everything you know here. Nobody is stopping you. I welcome the knowledge. Please, stop trying to invisibilize a genocide because of your own desire to seek conflict.

Fighting oppression does not mean that you need to stop looking at one to fight another.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

You are welcomed to share everything you know here. Nobody is stopping you. I welcome the knowledge. Please, stop trying to invisibilize a genocide because of your own desire to seek conflict.

Peak passive aggressive response.
Like an 11 year old girl.

 

[Logiko]

Peak passive aggressive response.
Like an 11 year old girl.

You prefer that I insult you for trying to invisibilize a genocide ?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

You prefer that I insult you for trying to invisibilize a genocide ?

Sorry, I'm too busy invisibilizing the genocide everyone talks about.
Yes, I'm THAT depraved.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Go check the photo then. Maybe you need a little wake up call.
I'm warning you, it's horrible.

The photo may be real but the text with it may not.

Do you know what colonization mean ?
Please.
Can you tell me what it is ? I want to check something.

But I agree with you. France needs to free its colonies who want independance.
Free Kanaky and the others !

Rule over another territory and it's population where you initially didn't. Like Europe did with America and Africa mainly.

Way different from what happened at the region where it is Israel today.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Rule over another territory and it's population where you initially didn't. Like Europe did with America and Africa mainly.

You're THIS close to enlightenment my Brazilian goat

 

[Logiko]

Sorry, I'm too busy invisibilizing the genocide everyone talks about.
Yes, I'm THAT depraved.

For two years you have been implying PASSIVE AGRESSIVELY "you are looking too much at Y instead of looking more at X" but VERY RARELY have I seen you just sharing post explaining the oppressions of natives in south and north america, or syrians or people under fear in Congo or in Sudan or Ukranian living an invasion and war crimes, or Rohingyas, or people in concentration camps in the US or people getting shot for protesting governement in north Africa, or protestors being hunted in eastern Europe or the oppression of the colonization of sahara by Morocco or Trans people getting nailed in Russia, or people under the threats of neocolonialist exploitation of Uranium in central and south africa... or Minorities being targeted in any capitalist country in the world... (and so on)

What I see you do or have seen you do, is attacking me and other who share stuff about Gaza or LGBQTI+ or natives because it seems to me that you can't stand people standing up for something.

Is that direct enough for you ?

Now please, if you want to share stuff about something that matters to you, go ahead, I'll fight with you. But don't try to invisbilize other oppression at the same time with you snarky remarks.

If you are a leftist who wants to fight oppression fine ! Act like one. For now, I can't consider you an ally.

The photo may be real but the text with it may not.

Usually, when I here multiple testimonies of atrocities, I tend to favor the words of the oppressed than the oppressor. But that's just me.

Rule over another territory and it's population where you initially didn't. Like Europe did with America and Africa mainly.

Way different from what happened at the region where it is Israel today.

No. It's exactly the same. Britain had no right over the homes of these people. Palestine wasn't there to give.

What happened is colonization and apartheid. And now, genocide, war crimes, forced starvation and even more colonization.

If you want me to explain how imperialism and colonialism works, we can work on that, but please, hold your judgment unless you understand a minimum the subject at hand. It's not the case here. Answer me in the other convo, it will be much more interesting.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

For two years you have been implying PASSIVE AGRESSIVELY "you are looking too much at Y instead of looking more at X" but VERY RARELY have I seen you just sharing post explaining the oppressions of natives in south and north america, or syrians or people under fear in Congo or in Sudan or Ukranian living an invasion and war crimes, or Rohingyas, or people in concentration camps in the US or people getting shot for protesting governement in north Africa, or protestors being hunted in eastern Europe or the oppression of the colonization of sahara by Morocco or Trans people getting nailed in Russia, or people under the threats of neocolonialist exploitation of Uranium in central and south africa... or Minorities being targeted in any capitalist country in the world... (and so on)

You forgot West Papua

If you are a leftist who wants to fight oppression fine ! Act like one. For now, I can't consider you an ally.

You don't get to gatekeep leftism.

The other statements don't deserve a response.

 

[Logiko]

You don't get to gatekeep leftism.

The other statements don't deserve a response.

I don't have to.

You take yourself out of it on your own.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Post automatically merged: Sep 1, 2025

Wait until you see my legally owned gun collection
I was right wing all along

 

[Logiko]

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Wait until you see my legally owned gun collection
I was right wing all along

sure

 

[HerreraIsBack]

You’re failing to understand, it’s all plainly right there…and you seem to think capital punishment or the threat thereof is the only effective crime deterrent instead of actual rehabilitation like drug counseling or therapy, so of course none of this makes any sense to you, I really can’t make it any simpler

Still hard to understand. So in your mind instead of threatening with jail or putting in jail it is better to make drug counseling/therapy? What crime exactly you are thinking? I'm thinking about murder and robbery and I don't see that stuff being effective. Much more the opposite the president of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, proved that it works! Although I disagree with his means since people didn't had a fair trial over there and this is a huge issue specially in Brazil.

We’re just going in circles now, you’re using hypotheticals and have no way to prove your concept, especially after I already disputed this last time…

I'm just trying to explain you what I meant. If you can't understand... ok, I guess.

You’re admitting that a machine is better than you, which makes you a pretty pathetic human…you’re too lazy to do 30 seconds of your own research, so why do you think you should be taken seriously??

Machines are better in specific tasks than all humans. That's their purpose. That's how they substitute humans, because they are more efficient. I can't gather in 30s the amount of information it can. I can ask it to do it for me while I do something else. At the end of the day I still have to analyze the information and it's sources to see it is valid or not. And I really don't understand why you think it is so different to ask ChatGPT to do a research you'd do at Google. Like you are praising yourself to research on Google that also has it's AI now than doing it on ChaGPT because you think Google search is not a machine doing the work for you?

Color me surprised, you haven’t understood a single part of this conversation or any of the others you’re having here

Not with you. Others are better to express their ideas.

I know two brain cells sounds like a lot to you, but you haven’t said a single word that makes you seem like an actual libertarian other than your generally incoherent rambling, which is what I’ve come to expect from guys (and it’s always guys) who call themselves one

All my words makes sense as a libertarian. You are the dishonest trying to put tags on me to help with your arguments because you can't argue against a libertarian, only against boomer conservatives.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

PASSIVE AGRESSIVELY

I never fully understood that term

Usually, when I here multiple testimonies of atrocities, I tend to favor the words of the oppressed than the oppressor. But that's just me.

It's funny because the oppressed is Israel. The one who got attacked and is defending themselves. But it's like they say no one do shit until the bullied kid fights back the bully.

No. It's exactly the same. Britain had no right over the homes of these people. Palestine wasn't there to give.

What happened is colonization and apartheid. And now, genocide, war crimes, forced starvation and even more colonization.

If you want me to explain how imperialism and colonialism works, we can work on that, but please, hold your judgment unless you understand a minimum the subject at hand. It's not the case here. Answer me in the other convo, it will be much more interesting.

Yea let's just forgot the war Otoman Empire had with Britain and they lost and that's why Britain took over the territory because that's what happens in wars. Loser side loses territory.

Also forgetting the fact that those people were renting those homes and didn't own them. Jews bought the homes and wanted them to themselves. Nothing wrong with that.

As always you keep talking like you know better than everybody else when in reality you don't understand a thing. And like many others here even when confronted with your own hipocrisy you deny reality. Like the International Court guy who disagree with it's own court.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I never fully understood that term


It's funny because the oppressed is Israel. The one who got attacked and is defending themselves. But it's like they say no one do shit until the bullied kid fights back the bully.

LOL

Retard.

Did you finish school?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

And I really don't understand why you think it is so different to ask ChatGPT to do a research you'd do at Google.

Chat gpt spreads misinformation, when you Google you can choose to filter the results the search provides you.

That's how they substitute humans, because they are more efficient.

Humans are not meant to be efficient slaves. Humans are meant to be alive.

 

[Logiko]

I never fully understood that term

When you want to be agressive and subtle and respectfull at the same time.

It's funny because the oppressed is Israel. The one who got attacked and is defending themselves. But it's like they say no one do shit until the bullied kid fights back the bully.

You need an entire education on colonialism and imperialism and apartheid and war crimes.

and ethics.. and proportionnal responses.. and resistances.. and so much more.

You have a long journey ahead if you don't wanna be looked like a jerk in a year or two by everyone you know IRL and on the internet.

If I didn't knew that you were TAC and trolling, I would probably find a way to insult you right now.

Stop that

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

respectfull

Quite the opposite

 

[Logiko]

Quite the opposite

Then stop doing it.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]