Controversial General Political Discussion

[Reborn]

You are underestimating the imperialist potential of a fascist Trumpist nation.

We are not safe from the guy starting a war with a previously allied country one day to keep his politics going and to overtake ressource by force.

Remember : Ur fascism is the cult of constant war and action.



Funny how it only needs one time for me to oppose your argumentation for you to adopt the same baseless tactics against me as every one else here. Come on, you are smarter than this. Don't fall into this trap of thinking. You are underestimating me on top of underestimating Trump.

No one is wanking the guy. Recognizing his destruction potential is not a mark of respect, it's result of the knowledge we have of capitalism and white supremacy and it's destructive potential. if I have another position on the subject than you, you should know by now that there is a very political reason to it.

Big bulks means contextual anti-capitalistic informations that you obviously don't have here. If you want short sentences, I will give you that, but you won't understand precisely why I disagree with you. Read again my last post without the snarky biases and understand what I said. It's important.

And indeed I'm not an active antifa nor do I intend to be one. This is not my way of doing politics. I do not know where you are going with your "antifa would scare you in real life". Dude, do not think that antifa beating nazis are the pinnacle of politicization, there are people far more knowledgable, radical and far more politicized than a lot of them.


I'm not scared by a bunch of performative revolutionnaries who will defend daddy Melenchon the first occasion they get.
Relax(not talking here about all antifa, just venting about a big bunch of them)

(And if you find what I just said strange for a radical leftist, it's precisely because I seem to have more informations and a more politicized perspective than just "trump dumb, Trump dangerous, fascism coming, fight fight fight". I rarely say things if I don't have evidences behind it and if do not check multiple times that I could be correct. Do not underestimate me just because I write a lot. What I'm saying comes from people far more knowledgable than you or me)

You are seriously giving too much credit to him.


Have you seen his video in which he was explaining how Tariffs work and believes increased tariffs are paid by exporter country?


Haven't you seen him making fuss when countries exposed his lies and snubbed his claim that he deserves nobel peace?

Haven't you seen him getting played by Putin?

Haven't you seen him making blatant lies and then easily getting caught in the web.

He's a narcissistic man child with highly fragile ego.

He can do whatever he can within USA which he's already doing it ..

But he can't do much outside USA. Tariffs backfiring is case in point.

And, let's assume he does start a war.....then again only Americans can take care of him

 

[Logiko]

Trump is the dumbest mother fucker who ever sat his ass in the Oval Office. He is following "track of fascistic capitalism" because he is a dumbass and you're wrong when you say that you have to look up at someone to see how big of a threat he is. I look down on Trump because he is a man-baby wannabe (almost successful) dictator which gives me enough insight of who he is.

You will not change my mind on this. Trump is highly predictable. Thinking that he is a moron will not make me "underestimate" anything.

Look up ? I'm not looking up at him, The guy is an ignorant of the first degree. He is just smart in his strategy and knows what he is doing. I'm not praising the asshole by saying this lol

But hey, you do what you want. Let's see who will be the most surprised at the end of the day.

You are seriously giving too much credit to him.


Have you seen his video in which he was explaining how Tariffs work and believes increased tariffs are paid by exporter country?


Haven't you seen him making fuss when countries exposed his lies and snubbed his claim that he deserves nobel peace?

Haven't you seen him getting played by Putin?

Haven't you seen him making blatant lies and then easily getting caught in the web.

He's a narcissistic man child with highly fragile ego.

He can do whatever he can within USA which he's already doing it ..

But he can't do much outside USA. Tariffs backfiring is case in point.

And, let's assume he does start a war.....then again only Americans can take care of him

I'm separating two type of "smart".

The smart of the machiavelism capitalist and the smart of the knowledge. Yes, this guy is ignorant, but he has a strategy and knows exactly how it will work. He doesn't need to know how tariff work, what he cares about is the effect of the politics and the economic change.

He knows that it will make billionnaires richers, that it will protect him from prison and give him a tool to make the working class poorer which will increase its base. There is no need for knowledge or truth in his perspective.

But again. I warned you. I done my deeds. Now I will watch on the side. You don't have to listen to me. Just remember what I told you the next time you are left in chock by one of his fascistic moves.

If it happens, you will know that it is time to stop underestimating him.

 

[Reborn]

Look up ? I'm not looking up at him, The guy is an ignorant of the first degree. He is just smart in his strategy and knows what he is doing. I'm not praising the asshole by saying this lol

But hey, you do what you want. Let's see who will be the most surprised at the end of the day.





I'm separating two type of "smart".

The smart of the machiavelism capitalist and the smart of the knowledge. Yes, this guy is ignorant, but he has a strategy and knows exactly how it will work. He doesn't need to know how tariff work, what he cares about is the effect of the politics and the economic change.

He knows that it will make billionnaires richers, that it will protect him from prison and give him a tool to make the working class poorer which will increase its base. There is no need for knowledge or truth in his perspective.

But again. I warned you. I done my deeds. Now I will watch on the side. You don't have to listen to me. Just remember what I told you the next time you are left in chock by one of his fascistic moves.

If it happens, you will know that it is time to stop underestimating him.

And, why are you warning me?

 

[Logiko]

And, why are you warning me?

Because it's important for your politicization.

This nuance is helpfull to understand that Trump is not just a random dumbass who makes reactionnary politics because he listens to his goons but a perfect product of capitalism.

It's helpfull not only to fight trump more seriously, but to fight capitalism more seriously. This means that Trump is not a glitch, not a bug in the system, but a predictible cataclysm that will strike hard or will happen again if we lower our gards and don't think beyond. Trump is just a random fuck who uses the system perfectly, but others will come like him and if we keep depoliticizing the subject by thinking that they are just dumb fucks, we are going to miss our chances to understand the way the system work deeply and how the strategy is shifting toward post-truth to exploit us even more.

 

[Reborn]

Because it's important for your politicization.

This nuance is helpfull to understand that Trump is not just a random dumbass who makes reactionnary politics because he listens to his goons but a perfect product of capitalism.

It's helpfull not only to fight trump more seriously, but to fight capitalism more seriously. This means that Trump is not a glitch, not a bug in the system, but a predictible cataclysm that will strike hard or will happen again if we lower our gards and don't think beyond. Trump is just a random fuck who uses the system perfectly, but others will come like him and if we keep depoliticizing the subject by thinking that they are just dumb fucks, we are going to miss our chances to understand the way the system work deeply and how the strategy is shifting toward post-truth to exploit us even more.

Thank you for the enlightenment. Now, I am feeling motivated to cross whole Indo - Pacific Ocean and charge my way into White House to seize taco before it's too late

 

[Logiko]

Thank you for the enlightenment. Now, I am feeling motivated to cross whole Indo - Pacific Ocean and charge my way into White House to seize taco before it's too late

Just getting more radical is enough for now.

Btw way talkin about fascist, we should look at what is happening in the streets of Indonesia at the moment. Wait we can't.. they are banning livestreams..

 

[Jew D. Boy]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/30/trump-administration-cabinet-race
@HerreraIsBack You wanna ask ChatGPT how you should feel about this?? Let’s see if it will spit out a new answer to your question about how much Donnie supposedly boosts Black livelihoods
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Wait, Herrera hasn’t been online since Thursday…and I think I know why
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/08/29/chatgpt-delusions-man-killed-mother/
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Not real, but not wrong
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To be clear, the pitch is fake, but Donnie not being seen in public for days is accurate…there are a ton of indications that he’s either very ill or close to the brink; with more information, I’ll adjust my excitement accordingly

He’s playing golf again

 

[Reborn]

Just getting more radical is enough for now.

Btw way talkin about fascist, we should look at what is happening in the streets of Indonesia at the moment. Wait we can't.. they are banning livestreams..

Nah.....

I am man of actions. I am flying to USA this week and I wrote a tweet mentioning you - inspiring us to take matters in our own hand before it's too late.

 

[Logiko]

Nah.....

I am man of actions. I am flying to USA this week and I wrote a tweet mentioning you - inspiring us to take matters in our own hand before it's too late.

Don't die brother

 

[Reborn]

Don't die brother

I am taking you with me

 

[Logiko]

I am taking you with me

I'm already there.

 

[Reborn]

I'm already there.

Bootlicking at highest level.


You know what would drive Americans absolutely crazy? If Trump somehow finds way to contest for the third term

 

[Logiko]

I just saw a photo, I won't share it here, of two people, on the ground.

These types of photography tend to pop up from time to times in my timelines since I want to be kept aware of the situation.. but they are usually blocked quickly by the algorythm. I have never seen that degree of atrocity before but these is what the daily Zionist war crimes look like on a daily basis. Here is what the title says (it's a translation from arab):

"A Zionist tank committed a horrific crime against a displaced Palestinian family; where the father and mother were forced to stop and sit on the ground, then they were deliberately run over more than 20 times back and forth, until their bodies were obliterated and they were martyred in a scene that surpasses all meanings of savagery and barbarism. "

DO NOT SEARCH FOR IT UNLESS YOUR ARE PREPARED, IT'S HORRIBLE.

I just needed to speak about it, because it was a bit much, even for me. I wanna puke just thinking about it.

(to be honest, I couldn't watch long enough to distinguish two people)

Bootlicking at highest level.


You know what would drive Americans absolutely crazy? If Trump somehow finds way to contest for the third term

Putin level authoritarian behavior.

This is looking bad.. real bad.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

The national security is not supposed to be deployed AGAINST the citizens without cause, they’re not protecting anyone by terrorizing regular people who, again, have not actually committed any crimes yet. If anyone in charge really cared about eliminating crime, they wouldn’t be slashing access to and funding for social services and public healthcare like it’ll somehow save them from going to Hell when they finally die…instead, we get our own military turned on us

This whole thing makes no sense at all. You still failling to explain how national security is terrorizing regular people. And the last part I really couldn't understand what you are trying to say, the slashing access and hell thing.

What does this even mean?? How do people who are weaving in between National Guard members when walking to the corner store know they “would” be suffering from unwarranted violence?? This is one of the more asinine things you’ve said, and I’m including your stated desire to bang preteens

It means that national security helped to reduce crime rates even further from what was already being reducing lately. And that without national security more crimes would have being commited and the victims for sure wouldn't mind having national security to prevent that.

I don’t rely on artificial intelligence to form my opinions or spare me the trouble of using my own powers of comprehension, no fucking machine is smarter than me!! 🤬🤬🤬
You posted one CBS News article, I thought you people didn’t trust mainstream media??? And where did it say anything about how he’s supposedly Black People’s White Savior?? God, if you think giving yourself over to a fake brain rather than using your own is something to be proud of, I’d hate to see what you consider phoning it in…

Artificial intelligence doesn't have an opinion itself. People use it for raw data, information, facts only. I just used ChatGPT to search the CBS News article for me and you wouldn't even noticed that if I didn't said it was AI doing the research for me. Is not different from searching myself at google except AI is much more efficient. You just sound like a boomer refusing to understand the new technology.

So we should pull people away from saving lives and land instead of picking a time when they’re not risking it all…I take it back, keep using ChatGPT because this is as dumb as it is callous. Also, fuckin’ lol at me apparently rooting for an all-powerful government, I’ve spent all day railing against it and this numbnuts is too preoccupied thinking about 14 year olds to pay any attention

I couldn't understand a shit here.

Wait, also fuckin’ LOL at “I’m a libertarian” like it means anything other than “even dumber conservative who likes to smoke pot”

Herrera in a nutshell:

>hates transgender people and defends white supremacists, strike “equality before the law and protection of civil rights” from the list
>thinks people should be punished before actually committing crimes and cheers on a country’s military occupying itself, there goes all the “freedom of” examples
>again, loves crowd control and military occupation, erase “oppose authority” et.al.

Some fucking libertarian we got here!! Hell, by this definition, I’M closer to being one than YOU are!! What do you have to say for yourself, comrade?!

I don't smoke pot but defend the right of anyone to choose on their own if they want to or not. And this goes for all drugs.

I don't hate trans people and never defended white supremacy.

Also never defended punishing people before doing crimes. The military part you said makes no sense at all I can't even understand what kind of lie you are trying to say.

I don't love crowd control and military occupation. If you put your 2 brain cells to work I'm a libertarian I'm in favor for everyone to have their own guns and do their own protectiong without fully depending on others.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

This whole thing makes no sense at all. You still failling to explain how national security is terrorizing regular people. And the last part I really couldn't understand what you are trying to say, the slashing access and hell thing.


It means that national security helped to reduce crime rates even further from what was already being reducing lately. And that without national security more crimes would have being commited and the victims for sure wouldn't mind having national security to prevent that.


Artificial intelligence doesn't have an opinion itself. People use it for raw data, information, facts only. I just used ChatGPT to search the CBS News article for me and you wouldn't even noticed that if I didn't said it was AI doing the research for me. Is not different from searching myself at google except AI is much more efficient. You just sound like a boomer refusing to understand the new technology.


I couldn't understand a shit here.


I don't smoke pot but defend the right of anyone to choose on their own if they want to or not. And this goes for all drugs.

I don't hate trans people and never defended white supremacy.

Also never defended punishing people before doing crimes. The military part you said makes no sense at all I can't even understand what kind of lie you are trying to say.

I don't love crowd control and military occupation. If you put your 2 brain cells to work I'm a libertarian I'm in favor for everyone to have their own guns and do their own protectiong without fully depending on others.

Treating every citizen like a potential criminal is:
1. An act of violence
2. An admission that the state is not FOR the people.

Take example of the UK, where you cannot buy a knife and they just banned KATANAs. The state, instead of fighting criminality and youths that grow up to become professional criminal, thinks that the solution is to not sell Herrera a knife. Every citizen is a potential criminal, and london is the city in the world with more camera. YET, criminality persist.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Bootlicking at highest level.


You know what would drive Americans absolutely crazy? If Trump somehow finds way to contest for the third term

Where it says US president can't have a 3rd term? Is constitution or a law/bill? I don't know how people don't see it as anti-democratic to prevent by law someone to run for presidency. If someone gets the chance to go for a 3rd term is because people like the person and is doing a good job. If people are against a 3rd term then they will naturally don't vote for it. Having the law saying you can't is just ridiculous and dictatorial.
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Treating every citizen like a potential criminal is:
1. An act of violence
2. An admission that the state is not FOR the people.

Take example of the UK, where you cannot buy a knife and they just banned KATANAs. The state, instead of fighting criminality and youths that grow up to become professional criminal, thinks that the solution is to not sell Herrera a knife. Every citizen is a potential criminal, and london is the city in the world with more camera. YET, criminality persist.

I just miss how having national security helping to make DC safe is treating every citizen as potential criminal

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Where it says US president can't have a 3rd term? Is constitution or a law/bill? I don't know how people don't see it as anti-democratic to prevent by law someone to run for presidency. If someone gets the chance to go for a 3rd term is because people like the person and is doing a good job. If people are against a 3rd term then they will naturally don't vote for it. Having the law saying you can't is just ridiculous and dictatorial.
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I just miss how having national security helping to make DC safe is treating every citizen as potential criminal

It's not necessarily that, but it blurs the line.
Let's say, you read tomorrow that in Bumfukistan the local dictator deployed the army in the capital to ensure stability.
And at the same time you read Trump deploys the national guard to fight crime.
The intent is different, the messaging is different, but the action performed by the president is the same.

If a state needs to deploy the army it's by definition an act of defence (war).

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Are you kidding me? How 18 as age of consent unreasonable and illogical but not 12 and 14?


Do you even realize why 18 as age of consent hits the right age mark?


It's a median age

Biological and physical maturity occurs between 14-16 but psychological maturity continues until 23-25..

18 as age of consent marks the common ground.

It also coincides with completion of first phase of education that is school education (essential to make rational decisions like voting and consent).

Its also around this age puberty peaks and people are near stepping into adulthood.


So, how this age is unreasonable but not 12 and 14?

Such cientific knowledge is too youth to be the cause of such old pattern.

Old Roman Empire had 12 years old for "women" and 14 years old for "men as age of consent. No one could legally marry before that. And overall 14 to respond to their crimes. And only 25 for civil duties.

Middle age the Catholic Church also had this 12 for "women" and 14 for "men" age of consent for marriage. Civil duty would vary from 15 to 21.

Modern age we have England using 21 as civil duty.

WWI civil age was dropped to 18 to justify ordering 18-21 men to fight at war.

Only at 1970 we had the first cientific studies saying mental maturity doesn't come with puberty. Only around 90's and 00's we learned that such maturity comes at the range 20-25. And such maturity has nothing to do with being able to have sex or not.

So using 18 as age of maturity is much more a political and historical construction than a cientific one.
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It's not necessarily that, but it blurs the line.
Let's say, you read tomorrow that in Bumfukistan the local dictator deployed the army in the capital to ensure stability.
And at the same time you read Trump deploys the national guard to fight crime.
The intent is different, the messaging is different, but the action performed by the president is the same.

If a state needs to deploy the army it's by definition an act of defence (war).

No it is not the same. Trump is not putting it's army against people protesting against him. They are putting army to protect people from criminals.
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I'm just coming back to this because I didn't answer it : Remember, Israel is a colonial state that is STILL colonizing today.

There are no legitimate Israel territories on this planet. The land belonged to the native of the region, not Europeans, not zionists, only natives of the region.

Israel is legitimate. The land belongs to who bought it. And so hypocrite of you to say such thing when also preaching for immigrants.
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Whew!! Thank God we’ve got ICE doing their job so well, I’m glad this violent criminal is finally off our stre-hmm?? A nurse, you say?? Well, according to brainiacs like @HerreraIsBack (who’s probably disgusted by the fact that she’s not underage), she MIGHT have committed a crime at some point, so this preemptive measure will save as many lives as *checks notes* a practicing medical professional would

Such a weak bait. I always said to be against immigration policy. I'm a libertarian after all, all those imaginary lines that determine countries are a joke to me.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/30/trump-administration-cabinet-race
@HerreraIsBack You wanna ask ChatGPT how you should feel about this?? Let’s see if it will spit out a new answer to your question about how much Donnie supposedly boosts Black livelihoods

ChatGPT just tell data doesn't tell about feelings. And my opinion about it is that I don't care about the color of the people I'm not racist like you I just care if they are good on what they do or not.

Wait, Herrera hasn’t been online since Thursday…and I think I know why
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/08/29/chatgpt-delusions-man-killed-mother/

Dude killed by himself. ChatGPT has nothing to do with it. You woke people will never take responsabilities for your own acts and always looking for someone or something else to blame.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Such cientific knowledge is too youth to be the cause of such old pattern.

Old Roman Empire had 12 years old for "women" and 14 years old for "men as age of consent. No one could legally marry before that. And overall 14 to respond to their crimes. And only 25 for civil duties.

Middle age the Catholic Church also had this 12 for "women" and 14 for "men" age of consent for marriage. Civil duty would vary from 15 to 21.

Modern age we have England using 21 as civil duty.

WWI civil age was dropped to 18 to justify ordering 18-21 men to fight at war.

Only at 1970 we had the first cientific studies saying mental maturity doesn't come with puberty. Only around 90's and 00's we learned that such maturity comes at the range 20-25. And such maturity has nothing to do with being able to have sex or not.

So using 18 as age of maturity is much more a political and historical construction than a cientific one.
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No it is not the same. Trump is not putting it's army against people protesting against him. They are putting army to protect people from criminals.
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Israel is legitimate. The land belongs to who bought it. And so hypocrite of you to say such thing when also preaching for immigrants.
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Such a weak bait. I always said to be against immigration policy. I'm a libertarian after all, all those imaginary lines that determine countries are a joke to me.
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ChatGPT just tell data doesn't tell about feelings. And my opinion about it is that I don't care about the color of the people I'm not racist like you I just care if they are good on what they do or not.


Dude killed by himself. ChatGPT has nothing to do with it. You woke people will never take responsabilities for your own acts and always looking for someone or something else to blame.

Mate it's like you do not read.
I think for you it's a skill issue

 

[Logiko]

Israel is legitimate. The land belongs to who bought it. And so hypocrite of you to say such thing when also preaching for immigrants.

That's not how it work and that's not what happened. So. no. Israel is still not legitimate. This state must cease to exist. Settlers must go home, and the rest must form a bipolar country with the Palestinian nation.

Colonization is NEVER legitimate.

Do I need to explain to you the difference between colonialism and immigration ?

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Btw: Did you read that?

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I just saw a photo, I won't share it here, of two people, on the ground.

These types of photography tend to pop up from time to times in my timelines since I want to be kept aware of the situation.. but they are usually blocked quickly by the algorythm. I have never seen that degree of atrocity before but these is what the daily Zionist war crimes look like on a daily basis. Here is what the title says (it's a translation from arab):

"A Zionist tank committed a horrific crime against a displaced Palestinian family; where the father and mother were forced to stop and sit on the ground, then they were deliberately run over more than 20 times back and forth, until their bodies were obliterated and they were martyred in a scene that surpasses all meanings of savagery and barbarism. "

DO NOT SEARCH FOR IT UNLESS YOUR ARE PREPARED, IT'S HORRIBLE.

I just needed to speak about it, because it was a bit much, even for me. I wanna puke just thinking about it.

(to be honest, I couldn't watch long enough to distinguish two people)

9/11. Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. Covid.

Careful.

I need to remind you that in our leftist activist realm in France, a man took his life out of agony because of COVID and share the entire thing day after day. Covid might not be dangerous for many (it is actually, you have no idea), but it can kill very easily people with immuno deficiancy or people like me with health problems.

So let me remind everyone here to put an FFP2 mask when you go to crowded places, go make a viral check and warn your close one.

COVID IS STILL HERE. And if you should be mad at the media for that at the moment, it's would be for not reporting it correctly.

Conspiracy theories are not something Palestinian needs at the moment!

Medias are what they are, medias, they are not good or bad, they are the voice of the one who pays. There are communist medias, there are anarchists medias, there are leftist medias, there are liberals medias, there are conservatist medias, there are fascist medias.

It only depend on who is paying, the system they use and the the vision of the world of the ones who make the news.