Chapter Discussion Predict your God Valley matchups before it kicks off

[moreha9685]

Shamrock also has massive bum energy, attacking a tied up weakened Loki with a named attack
They don't act like they are strong

They act with the same cocky attitude of someone who thinks himself a god, like Enel, precisely because they are stronger than anyone else, and have yet to be put in their place.

Shamrock attacks a chained-up Loki because he isn't scared of repercussions, even if Loki frees himself.
Garling slaughters civilians because they are nothing to him, he's that higher up on the hierarchical scale.

You're mistaking their lack of morals for physical weakness, when in fact their evil is rooted in their exceptional power.

 

[Blax Blah]

They act with the same cocky attitude of someone who thinks himself a god, like Enel, precisely because they are stronger than anyone else, and have yet to be put in their place.

Shamrock attacks a chained-up Loki because he isn't scared of repercussions, even if Loki frees himself.
Garling slaughters civilians because they are nothing to him, he's that higher up on the hierarchical scale.

You're mistaking their lack of morals for physical weakness, when in fact their evil is rooted in their exceptional power.

Maybe but attacking a tied up weakened Loki and then tellig him to come find him later didn't give me the impression that he is strong, it's not just about being evil

 

[moreha9685]

Maybe but attacking a tied up weakened Loki and then tellig him to come find him later didn't give me the impression that he is strong, it's not just about being evil

You're contradicting yourself.
If Shamrock were weak, he'd be afraid of Loki getting freed and wanting revenge.
Instead, Shamrock actively encourages Loki to find him, knowing fully well what the Elbaf royalty is capable of.

Again, you're letting your own moral compass cloud your judgment.
These are not people; they are characters. Evaluate them from their own POVs, not based on what you would do.

 

[centurion]

There's no matchups.

It will all be random clashes and skirmishes.

And the whole thing will be covered in just 1 chapter.

 

[SaitamaSanji]

There's no matchups.

It will all be random clashes and skirmishes.

And the whole thing will be covered in just 1 chapter.

lmao

 

[Raiden7]

I have a feeling that Shiki versus Gyaban will happen.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Nobody predicted that gv was gonna happen partly because of that bitch shakky before this flashback started.

I think at this point, oda is going purely for subversions of fan theories. So whatever shit makes sense, prolly won't happen. Cause he's so insecure that peeps are predicting his story that he's altering it without any thought about good storytelling.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

With everything you know so far

If Loki went to God Valley I think he met Kaido

Clashes:

Rocks VS Roger
Roger VS Garp
Rocks VS GunkImu
Shiki and Silver Axe (someone gets Domi Reversi'd).
Rocks VS Gorosei (Rocks kills them)
Gyaban vs Sommers
Garling vs Newgate


Final Fights:

Roger + Garp VS GunkImu (Roger and Garp combined attack to knock out Imu/Stop Domi Reversi)

Harald VS Domi Reversi Rocks (Harald kills Rocks to stop the Domi Reversi and to keep Rocks from destroying his Homeland, that occurs when Rocks finds his dead Wife)

Rayleigh VS Garling (Shakky)

Saturn VS Linlin and Kaido (Linlin saves Kuma. We know Kaido eats the Fruit Linlin took from Ivankov, so, Kaido should be near here. Kaido's about to lose to Saturn, when Linlin gives him his Fruit)

Warcury VS Ed War D. Newgate (mirroring Oden fighting the Mountain God; war vs war)

V. Nusjuro VS Shiki + Silver Axe (Wano connection, Rivals fight together moment)

Mars vs Gyaban + Captain John (no fucking idea, Gyaban and John have to fight someone)

Other Rocks/Roger Pirates vs God Knights



Lots of Rocks Pirates will die, one Gorosei will die, and some God's Knights will die.

IMO God Valley crippled the WG's power for a bit, which is why they had a hard time stopping Roger in his era; they were rebuilding their forces. Also why Loki got recruited: they lost a lot of people on God Valley.

 

[Bullet]

Clashes and interrupted fights mostly
It's a waste to spend time on something Oda won't give you.
Rocks vs Roger vs Garp
BM vs Saturn
Rest are up in the air and random
Garling could attack Ray or WB but it will be offpaneled and Short.

 

[mly90]

Nobody predicted that gv was gonna happen partly because of that bitch shakky before this flashback started.

I think at this point, oda is going purely for subversions of fan theories. So whatever shit makes sense, prolly won't happen. Cause he's so insecure that peeps are predicting his story that he's altering it without any thought about good storytelling.

You guys are coming to same conclusion we did 4 years ago

 

[MonochromeYoru]

You guys are coming to same conclusion we did 4 years ago

Do not compare this to ZKK lmao

ZKK was never gonna happen. Y'all just collectively dreamt of delusions too damn dumb.

 

[mly90]

Do not compare this to ZKK lmao

ZKK was never gonna happen. Y'all just collectively dreamt of delusions too damn dumb.

It’s the same thing you guys just hated the idea

 

[kekaro]

Do not compare this to ZKK lmao

ZKK was never gonna happen. Y'all just collectively dreamt of delusions too damn dumb.

It’s the same thing you guys just hated the idea

When Low will be irrelevant like i said he will become a fellow Loda shouting Temple Scholar
I believe

 

[ClovenHoofClown]

Bluegrass vs Streusen

 

[Don Diego]

Garling is set up as IMU's righthand man in the Final War, he isn't getting clowned on before then, not even by the old legends.

Some people need to stop mixing two different things… Garling will be the second strongest on the WG’s side? Maybe… after all, he’s a potential opponent for Rat Haired Shanks. However, I doubt that in Imu’s vocabulary there’s anything like a “right hand”; the guy subjugates everyone. I’m more likely to believe that Garling has his own agenda.

 

[Jinjoo]

Rocks vs Roger

Rocks vs garp and roger.

Rocks vs Garling

Garp vs roger (a few panels)

Kaido vs roger (small clash)

Sommers vs gaban

Whitebeard vs Garling

Shiki vs reyleigh

Big mom vs saturn

Rocks vs imu(domi reversi clash)

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

It's hard to guess, but here's my bet (in order):

• Xebec vs. Gunko/Imu (Imu gives up, Teach is saved);
• Gaban vs. Sommers (Gaban wins);
• Rayleigh vs. Garling (draw/interrupted, Shakky is saved);
• Roger vs. Kaido (Roger wins);
• Linlin vs. Saturn (Saturn wins, but Linlin gets Kaido's DF and later gives it to him);
• Gaban vs. Kyo (Gaban wins);
• Rayleigh vs. Shiki (Rayleigh wins);
• Roger Pirates vs. Marines vs. Rocks Pirates vs. Holy Knights (the Roger Pirates and the Marines prevail, the HKs flee to Mary Geoise);
• Xebec vs. Saturn (Xebec wins, Saturn flees to Mary Geoise);
• Newgate vs. Garling (Garling wins);
• Xebec vs. Garling (Xebec wins, Garling flees to Mary Geoise);
• Roger vs. Garp (draw/interrupted);
• Xebec vs. Roger and Garp (Roger and Garp win, God Valley gets destroyed, the survivors escape);
• Garling wins the Native Hunting Competition and is declared the Champion of God Valley.

 

[ClovenHoofClown]

It's hard to guess, but here's my bet (in order):

• Gaban vs. Sommers (Gaban wins);
• Roger vs. Kaido (Roger wins);
• Linlin vs. Saturn (Saturn wins, but Linlin gets Kaido's DF and later gives it to him);
• Gaban vs. Kyo (Gaban wins);
• Rayleigh vs. Shiki (Rayleigh wins);
• Newgate vs. Garling (Garling wins);

I agree with Gaban v Sommers...although I don't actually think we'll see or even hear about it. I feel like most of God Valley's fights will be off-screened, with some major peeps not even being mentioned to have been in a particular fight.

I don't think Garling should be able to beat Newgate, especially since he has his fruit, and if Gling has clashed with Rayleigh prior. I don't think he'll beat Newgate, just scar him.

I don't think Roger will beat Kaido, but it would be neat to see.

Linlin should be able to kick Saturn's ass even with his regeneration, and I don’t think they'd fight just for Linlin to lose because she can't finish him off.

I get the whole axe thing, but I don't like the idea of Gaban getting two fights that he wins, but it could happen. I'd be interested in seeing Shiki vs Kyo, since they ARE rivals.

It's entirely possible that Kyo is a marine spy and that there were two traitors in the Rocks Pirates (with or without being connected to each other). Regardless, the two could get into a fight anyways, just because of the animosity they already have for each other.

I would be PISSED if Rayleigh beat Shiki. He should ABSOLUTELY be weaker, but I wouldn't put it past Oda to do something like this anyways.

It would never happen, but I've always wanted a God Valley teamup between Rayleigh and Bogard (both swordsmen, a parallel to Roger and Garp teaming up). I would be more accepting of them fighting against Shiki together.

I don’t think Garling is gonna lose to anyone here.

 

[Jailer]

I think Garling has gotts interact with Rox in some way either by using Teach hostage or some shit

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

I agree with Gaban v Sommers...although I don't actually think we'll see or even hear about it. I feel like most of God Valley's fights will be off-screened, with some major peeps not even being mentioned to have been in a particular fight.

I don't think Garling should be able to beat Newgate, especially since he has his fruit, and if Gling has clashed with Rayleigh prior. I don't think he'll beat Newgate, just scar him.

I don't think Roger will beat Kaido, but it would be neat to see.

Linlin should be able to kick Saturn's ass even with his regeneration, and I don’t think they'd fight just for Linlin to lose because she can't finish him off.

I get the whole axe thing, but I don't like the idea of Gaban getting two fights that he wins, but it could happen. I'd be interested in seeing Shiki vs Kyo, since they ARE rivals.

It's entirely possible that Kyo is a marine spy and that there were two traitors in the Rocks Pirates (with or without being connected to each other). Regardless, the two could get into a fight anyways, just because of the animosity they already have for each other.

I would be PISSED if Rayleigh beat Shiki. He should ABSOLUTELY be weaker, but I wouldn't put it past Oda to do something like this anyways.

It would never happen, but I've always wanted a God Valley teamup between Rayleigh and Bogard (both swordsmen, a parallel to Roger and Garp teaming up). I would be more accepting of them fighting against Shiki together.

I don’t think Garling is gonna lose to anyone here.

I think it's impossible to pinpoint the names when we don't know all the players. There are still unknown Holy Knights, for example, who could be as strong as Garling and Sommers or even stronger (since they're still young at the time)... they'll certainly face important characters down the line. Plus, you remembered another wildcard: Bogard. As he's apparently Garp's right-hand man, this guy has been hinted as a powerhouse since the East Blue Saga, but still haven't made it clear so far. There are the other Gorosei, who seemingly can be summoned at will by a single one of them. There's also Dragon, although I think that he looks really 'meh' in the flashback, maybe he was pre-skip Koby level at this point. In addition, there may be another admiral there (recently promoted Sengoku?), although it's highly unlikely.

Actually, my only "certain" matchups are Roger vs. Kaido (since Kaido has Roger in his top 5), Gaban vs. Sommers (hinted recently at Elbaf), WB vs. Garling (there's the scar thing and WB needs to face a powerful enemy -- on the losing side, so it's very likely that he got defeated in God Valley) and Roger/Garp vs. Xebec (hinted since the God Valley incident was first mentioned by Sengoku). You must take into consideration that the Rocks' versions of Newgate, Linlin and Kaido (and maybe Shiki too) aren't still in their primes, so it wouldn't be weird if Rayleigh and Gaban were stronger than them at the time (in any case, their portrayal has been huge so far, Rayleigh was even considered a legend on par with Whitebeard back during the preparations to the Marineford War).

Spoiler: Chapter #501