Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1161 Spoilers discussion thread

[Welkin]

Greatness is only for Zori and Wiwawk.

Aye I’ll give Oda credit with Zoro he lets him absolutely maul people

He scarred Kaido, cut off part of King’s wing, and nearly mutilated Lucci

Most of these top tier swordsmen just swing hammers around basically

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Not exactly the same though

 

[Welkin]

idk why he chose to not show prime Ray bisecting sommers, but was totally cool with old gaben cutting up sommers like paper.

This could be pre regen-merchant Sommers so Oda didn’t want to show Rayleigh straight up killing him

Or Gaban is the only top tier that actually cuts people lol

One or the other

 

[M.O]

peter is gonna be sanjino opponent too

So when the gorosei get focus, expect peter to be a clown too lol

i mean for fucks sake he's a damn worm

Yeah, Sanji like this

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Historical research is not archeology. They overlap to some degree.

“
How are history and archaeology related?

History and archaeology both study ancient people and things. Specifically, historians study older documents and artifacts and create an interpretation of the past for the public. Archaeologists excavate artifacts that both the archaeologists and historians study. Archaeologists also look at historical documents, but they typically use them for background information on a site. The fields of history and archaeology study very similar things but do so from different viewpoints.”

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[ZenZu]

I didn’t even notice the part where it says he sent Sommers flying

Another swordsman that doesn’t cut

Oda might as well give every swordsman in One Piece a baseball bat

We already knew Ray, Shanks, Roger are one type of swordsman. Mihawk, Oden, Zoro are another type.

Ray having internal destruction was a major giveaway. Zoro will never learn that.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Where this source is from anyway?

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

I didn’t even notice the part where it says he sent Sommers flying

Another swordsman that doesn’t cut

Oda might as well give every swordsman in One Piece a baseball bat

Nobody does it better than Gaston I mean Kaido!

BRUH WAIT A MINUTE LMAO:

https://major.fandom.com/wiki/Kaido_Academy

GODA?!

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

And it resembles death in their culture too.

In Japan, the red spider lily (higanbana) symbolizes death, loss, farewell, and final goodbyes, and is often associated with the afterlife and the Buddhist festival of the equinox, though it can also represent rebirth and renewal due to the cyclical nature of death and life. Its meaning as a beautiful but ominous flower, appearing near cemeteries and grave sites, stems from both its late summer/early autumn bloom time and its poisonous nature.

Robin upscale btw, Hana Hana no mi (flower flower fruit).

Both Shakky and Gion/Momusagi have spiders on them too. "Black Widows" maybe?

Tritoma kinda reminds me of Momusagi/Gion a LITTLE too. Crocodile best mom/kuja empress/girl btw.

Robin's Awakening allowing her to create actual plant life would be interesting, like a Goddess of fertility. I made a post a while back about Robin learning "Thorns" from Sommers, by learning Shigan, and using her Grappling techniques to restrain foes, before stabbing her fingers into them repeatedly with Shigan.

But, if Robin can just... make Plant Life, she becomes Usopp's arsenal, and can Pop Green like when you light Marijuana seeds on fire accidentally.

Tritoma = Crocodile is very interesting: Tritoma "died" as far as Amazon Lily is concerned, because she became a man. Tritoma couldn't handle being scarred, and Dragon leaving her:

This is why Ivankov turned Crocodile into a man, so Tritoma could escape the Love Sickness that would kill her.

Crocodile COMPLETELY changed how he treated Luffy once he realized Luffy was Dragon's son.

Amazon Lily is where Luffy sailed from to save Croc. Where did Baroque Works operatives gather? Spider Cafe. Who did Imu mess with? Lili.

Why did Crocodile want to create Utopia? So the women of Amazon Lily could live freely without being hunted by the WG. Once Croc realized Vegapunk was building ships that could cross the Calm Line, Croc realizes Amazon Lily is no longer safe, and plans to protect it long term.

Remember the Mihawk = Shakky + Rayleigh's kid theories?

If Mihawk's mother is Shakky, who knew Tritoma, this makes sense. I think Oda would have to retcon some ages, though: Tritoma looked like a young teen 44 years ago, and Croc was born... 46 years ago.

Maybe Croc is Tritoma's little sister, and hates Dragon, because Dragon killed Tritoma, by meeting her, but abandoning her, to die of Love Sickness? Female Croc looks A LOT like Tritoma, but a bit different.

Tritoma wanted to rebel against the WG, but couldn't leave her people. Disgusted with Dragon's unwillingness to fight the WG seriously, Crocodile becomes a man, and a pirate, to take down the WG.

Momusagi is fascinating here...

The name Tritoma is derived from the tritoma genus of flowering plants, also known as red hot poker or torch lily. This genus is characterized by its red and yellow flowers, which symbolize strength and resilience. The name follows the flower-themed names of the Kuja tribe, indicating a connection to their cultural identity.

Momousagi means "Pink Rabbit". Momo = Peach/Pink. Momonosuke is also named this, because Peach/Pink refers to Wano's Sakura Blossoms. Momoiro Island is name as such, because it is Pink (IE Lady Coded) and is named "Peachy Island" in English.

In Japanese, Gion refers to a district in Kyoto known for its traditional arts and culture, and it can also mean "silver" or "full moon".

Full Moon = Minks = Sulong, and her codename has Momo (Momonosuke) and Usagi (Rabbit) in it. The Kozuki are a Clan associated with the Moon.

Finally, Momousagi is a detective. Tsuru regards her as a little sister. Tsuru = Wano name = possible Wano origins = possible relations to Kinemon's wife O-Tsuru.

• Several aspects of Gion's character reference ozashiki asobi (お座敷遊び,?, literally "tatami room games"), which are games played with geisha in teahouses:
  • Gion is said to be skilled at all of these games.[5]
  • Gion's name is likely a reference to Kyoto's Gion district, which is famous for its geisha and has teahouses where ozashiki asobi are played.
  • Gion's sword, Konpira, is likely named after the game called Konpira Fune Fune.

Tokikake's epithet is Chaton (Brown Pig... Mountain God reference), and Toki means In Japanese, Toki is a gender-neutral name that can mean “time,” “autumn,” “spring,” “season,” “triumph,” or “dragon” depending on the kanji used, and is also the name of Kozuki Toki.

Momousagi and Tokikake are 1000% heading to Wano for the Pluton War.

Normal Kuja fans: "We want Shakky to step on us."
Ghostly and CoC: "ONE OF THESE CHICKS HAS TO BE LUFFY'S MOM, WHO THE HELL IS IT???"

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Where this source is from anyway?

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_88

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Nobody does it better than Gaston I mean Kaido!

BRUH WAIT A MINUTE LMAO:

https://major.fandom.com/wiki/Kaido_Academy

GODA?!

Gear 5: Gomu Gomu no: Ball Boy.

 

[Jakeripper23]

She probably moved to sabaody after this

Yeah probably

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

Historical research is not archeology. They overlap to some degree.

“
How are history and archaeology related?

History and archaeology both study ancient people and things. Specifically, historians study older documents and artifacts and create an interpretation of the past for the public. Archaeologists excavate artifacts that both the archaeologists and historians study. Archaeologists also look at historical documents, but they typically use them for background information on a site. The fields of history and archaeology study very similar things but do so from different viewpoints.”

Huh wow TIL. I never knew of the differences, damn.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

WELP GREAT POINT! If the flag thing is not a mistake on Oda's part and thus actually intentional, unlike the 30 something "mistakes" during the cringey Road the Weaboo beginning part of Elbaph with the blatant posturing by Oda for a Lego promotional crossover too, then props to Oda for that instead.

I think the flag is probably flying in front of the country, with the statues of Wano's heroes (GOD D. USOPP)

The original location was temporary, until they could build a flag stand in front of the country's borders/waterfall.

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

Kizaru pre TS fighting Rayleigh without him using any named move or haki

TFW when Apoo did far more "damage" to Kizaru and almost killed him, if he only wasn't a Logia he would have as well lol.

 

[Dragon777]

Sommers is alright for a commander-level dude with regen.

Yep. But no more than that.

Also, some YC have actually better showings.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Yeah, Sanji like this

I think Hybrid Jupeter will literally be four Worm Limbs that end in heads and a long neck with his head.

I cannot wait for the sex jokes/crazy AI nonsense.

I could see a Worm Tail, I'll lose it if we actually get the Worm Dick.

TOEI AND SHUEISHA ARE TOO SCARED TO LET ODA DRAW THE WORM COC

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

Yeah, Sanji like this

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I think Hybrid Jupeter will literally be four Worm Limbs that end in heads and a long neck with his head.

I cannot wait for the sex jokes/crazy AI nonsense.

I could see a Worm Tail, I'll lose it if we actually get the Worm Dick.

TOEI AND SHUEISHA ARE TOO SCARED TO LET ODA DRAW THE WORM COC

There's so many shots of Ju Pecker/Ju Penis could even just say Ju Peter (and he was "circumcised" by Dorry and Broggy too) from the episode recently where he deadass does look like a giant cock too. It has to be on purpose as Japan does celebrate a penis worship festival every year unironically lmfao.

 

[Cruxroux]

Aye I’ll give Oda credit with Zoro he lets him absolutely maul people

He scarred Kaido, cut off part of King’s wing, and nearly mutilated Lucci

Most of these top-tier swordsmen swing hammers around basically

I don't really blame them lol.

Given the type they were against, ID and AdCoA would work in their favour.

Where Zoro and Mihawk cut through anything, regardless of how tough.

ID is basically a shortcut compared to Cut to damage.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

We already knew Ray, Shanks, Roger are one type of swordsman. Mihawk, Oden, Zoro are another type.

Ray having internal destruction was a major giveaway. Zoro will never learn that.

Zoro and Sanji are mirrors of King and Queen.

King is a defensive juggernaut who outspeeds his opponents and wears them down with fast fire attacks.

Queen is a tactical mastermind who uses tech to enhance his body and alter his biology, with a focus on rotation, who is slower than most, and a master of crushing people with Adv CoA. The only reason Sanji survived this fight is Germa tech, without it, Sanji dies to Queen's Brachio-Hiss. Hell, the only thing that saved Sanji was Queen shooting himself in the ass. Same with Zoro and Enma, without Enma, Zoro loses, he needed the Haki training.

Zoro will focus on Offensive Armament like Queen, while Sanji focus on Defense via Lineage Factor Elements and a unique body, like King.