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Rayleigh genuinely looked pathetic this chapter, but it's okay because every single old legend pirate except Xebec is looking that bad. Garp is exposing them.

Enraged Prime Ray had weaker AP than Old Gaban confirmed and he was beaten and battered fighting through fodder.

Max exodus of Gayleigh bros is expected. I really hope Oda throws him a touch butt with Lhiki to save some face. @ShishioIsBack
Who isnt roughed up in this flash back?? And how do you know Rayleigh was fighting fodder??
 
Rayleigh genuinely looked pathetic this chapter, but it's okay because every single old legend pirate except Xebec is looking that bad. Garp is exposing them.

Enraged Prime Ray had weaker AP than Old Gaban confirmed and he was beaten and battered fighting through fodder.

mass exodus of Gayleigh bros is expected. I really hope Oda throws him a touch butt with Lhiki to save some face. @ShishioIsBack
And you dont think calling a CoC less Rayleigh prime Rayleigh a little bit pathetic?

Rayleigh has still looked better than any pirate not named Xebec in this flash back

He is literally looking better than Whitebeard
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
Garp hasn't reached his peak either though according to your logic. He's in the exact same boat as Roger, WB is not far behind at all. BM is a bit younger and obviously Kaidou can be excluded.
People really don't take into consideration that, apart from Rocks, that is gonna die here, all of these characters develop themselves further into their journeys. Kaido/BM/WB become Yonkos (theories about Shiki being the Yonko prior to Shanks arise), Roger became PK and fought a much stronger WB multiple times, Ray/Gaban also grew, Garp did that training later in his carreer just for Chinjao and Garp seems like the type who constantly trains, etc.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Each of them has their peak career moment.

GV is Garp's peak career moment. Roger's is clearly Raftel. For WB, according to Buggy, he was the one making headlines right before Roger became PK.
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Bruh what, I'm talking about peak of their strength. Not peak moments lmao. Garp years later was training for Chinjao.

WB and mostly Roger are absolutely not exempt from this, if they aren't at their peak neither was Garp. It's either they are all there or none of them are. You don't get to choose who is or who isn't based off who looks better or worse.
 
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Bruh what, I'm talking about peak of their strength. Not peak moments lmao. Garp years later was training for Chinjao.

WB and mostly Roger are absolutely not exempt from this, if they aren't at their peak neither was Garp. It's either they are all there or none of them are.
I said peak CAREER moments. As in where they display their greatest feats.
 
And you dont think calling a CoC less Rayleigh prime Rayleigh a little bit pathetic?

Rayleigh has still looked better than any pirate not named Xebec in this flash back

He is literally looking better than Whitebeard
You must be insane if you believe that. In this very chapter we have WB collateral diffing a HK by doing what Prime Ray failed to do with his strongest attack, cut them in half. This chapter is literally Oda fucking with Rayleigh bros. He knows what the feat to beat was with Gaban and specifically chose to give Prime Ray an inferior feat.

I'm just telling you what we can see bro. Don't let me get into the state Rayleigh was in. I'm praying Oda reveals that Garp jumped him before he reached Sommers or some shit otherwise I'm putting Rayleigh at YC1 level.
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

Super Sulong Wanda in Wano Act 4
I don't see any haki or even a hardened blade.

That was purely a shockwave kind of attack it seems.
Rayeligh didn't need to use a lick of Haki to send Sommers flying through a wall

And people are saying it makes him weak

LOL

Sommer's Observation is shit, second time in the series he's gotten attacked, while barely realizing it was happening, because he was too busy torturing women.

I know Oda's really hit-and-miss with CoO, but, like, fucking come on, man.
 
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