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I have looked at your posts enough and I would be blunt.
I don't think you actually care about Palestinians.
I think your whole purpose is revolution, rebellion against capitalist structure and system..This is what you actually care about... overthrow capitalism and have your own materialistic system in place.
I don't think you actually care about Palestinians.
I think your whole purpose is revolution, rebellion against capitalist structure and system..This is what you actually care about... overthrow capitalism and have your own materialistic system in place.
Those are really inter-changeable.
Anyway, no one at the moment can stop a genocide backed by the USA. At best we can boycott like clowns.
It's gonna be 2 years of genocide in a few days and all we gained is the recognition of the state of Palestine.
Meanwhile Netanyahu is probably thinking about which kind of gas he should use in Gaza.
Such a random comment. Who cares about Palestinians then ?
Anyway, no one at the moment can stop a genocide backed by the USA. At best we can boycott like clowns.
It's gonna be 2 years of genocide in a few days and all we gained is the recognition of the state of Palestine.
Meanwhile Netanyahu is probably thinking about which kind of gas he should use in Gaza.
Such a random comment. Who cares about Palestinians then ?
Why not both?
It's really funny that it is liberals and reactionnary friends who are trying to explain to me... the one guy who is trying to raise awareness to victim of Israel 24/7 that I'm not genuine and have just a hidden agenda.. that somehow I'm just sharing also 24/7 here.
The joke writes itself.
The reality is that the Israel situation combined to the rising of fascism everywhere in the world, combined to the fascism regime rising in USA under Trump and people starting to be more and more leftists here ...
... proves that everything I tried to scream and share about these last 4 years is just ... the truth.. and it makes you unconfortable to settle with the idea that I'm the one with the logical and ethical rethoric while you are on the side of people fighting it.
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Telling ME that I don't care about Palestinian when I have people IRL that are literally trying to stop me from caring too much because they are afraid of the effect it currently has on me... I think I would have prefered an insult to be honest.
Those are really inter-changeable.
Anyway, no one at the moment can stop a genocide backed by the USA. At best we can boycott like clowns.
It's gonna be 2 years of genocide in a few days and all we gained is the recognition of the state of Palestine.
Meanwhile Netanyahu is probably thinking about which kind of gas he should use in Gaza.
Such a random comment. Who cares about Palestinians then ?
Anyway, no one at the moment can stop a genocide backed by the USA. At best we can boycott like clowns.
It's gonna be 2 years of genocide in a few days and all we gained is the recognition of the state of Palestine.
Meanwhile Netanyahu is probably thinking about which kind of gas he should use in Gaza.
Such a random comment. Who cares about Palestinians then ?
And, no one actually cares about Palestinians - the innocents dying everyday.
Certainly not Israel
Not Hamas
Not the world watching for years
Not the ones who are against peace plan because...."we are revolutionary"
Why not both?
It's really funny that it is liberals and reactionnary friends who are trying to explain to me... the one guy who is trying to raise awareness to victim of Israel 24/7 that I'm not genuine and have just a hidden agenda.. that somehow I'm just sharing also 24/7 here.
The joke writes itself.
The reality is that the Israel situation combined to the rising of fascism everywhere in the world, combined to the fascism regime rising in USA under Trump and people starting to be more and more leftists here ...
... proves that everything I tried to scream and share about these last 4 years is just ... the truth.. and it makes you unconfortable to settle with the idea that I'm the one with the logical and ethical rethoric while you are on the side of people fighting it.
You can believe whatever you want to....
You are extreme on the other side of the spectrum.
You will never be the solution. You are part of the problem as well.
"on the other side of the spectrum" ?
This statement as I already explained is based on the fallacious principle and horseshoe theory : A theory that affirms that somehow the extrem on the political spectrum are closer than we think.
Mainly used by liberals and centrist people who wanna look rationnal with little to no actual reasonning, this theory fallaciously considers the political spectrum as a lign of relative value spectrum:
Bad values on the extrem, good values around the center.
When in reality. The spectrum looks like this:
Your and other's BS here is useless. I'm not the one who don't care about Palestinian, you are the ones who don't care enough to learn about the REAL solutions behind this conflict and prefer hidding your heads in the sands of "it will never end" and "it's too complicated"
The solution is simple : One state solution.
Is this a radical solution ? Yes.
Is this a complicated solution to apply ? Yes.
Will Israel be mad at this solution ? Yes.
But is this the best solution to create peace ? Yes.
This statement as I already explained is based on the fallacious principle and horseshoe theory : A theory that affirms that somehow the extrem on the political spectrum are closer than we think.
Mainly used by liberals and centrist people who wanna look rationnal with little to no actual reasonning, this theory fallaciously considers the political spectrum as a lign of relative value spectrum:
Bad values on the extrem, good values around the center.
When in reality. The spectrum looks like this:
Your and other's BS here is useless. I'm not the one who don't care about Palestinian, you are the ones who don't care enough to learn about the REAL solutions behind this conflict and prefer hidding your heads in the sands of "it will never end" and "it's too complicated"
The solution is simple : One state solution.
Is this a radical solution ? Yes.
Is this a complicated solution to apply ? Yes.
Will Israel be mad at this solution ? Yes.
But is this the best solution to create peace ? Yes.
Israel making sure to previously warn where and when they will attack so innocents can leave the place and to become collateral of the war is not caring about Palestinians? What is to care about them then?
Israel giving up their own territory, with lots of jew facilities that they could make use of to grow and become a decent place is not caring about Palestinians? Then what it is?
Israel giving up their own territory, with lots of jew facilities that they could make use of to grow and become a decent place is not caring about Palestinians? Then what it is?
Projection by the real people who don't care for them. It's always the leftists, the empathic ones who get way more scrutiny publically, from both the right and "centrists" too. Classic deflecting and scapegoating.
Fucking idiot masses care way more about 1 extremely hateful, influential white guy getting killed than literally countless, thousands of individual Palestinian lives of all ages including children, being bombed, shot dead, drone striked, starved to death etc.
Ethnic people especially when genocided are just a statistic but they will cry "white genocide" in the media because they see more non-white characters in their games, tv shows and such. "Muh raceswapping". That's not even counting the ones who are cheering for the genocide of them too.
The wolves will convince the sheep that they're vegeterian or at least not the ones hunting, killing and eating the sheep.
The amount of times I've had people assume the worst of me due to my skin colour IRL but someone tries to assault and kill me IRL and he gets a slap on the wrist and told he's a good boy whose done nothing wrong, beause he's the "preferred skin colour". They probably hope secretly that he finished the job too.
Fucking idiot masses care way more about 1 extremely hateful, influential white guy getting killed than literally countless, thousands of individual Palestinian lives of all ages including children, being bombed, shot dead, drone striked, starved to death etc.
Ethnic people especially when genocided are just a statistic but they will cry "white genocide" in the media because they see more non-white characters in their games, tv shows and such. "Muh raceswapping". That's not even counting the ones who are cheering for the genocide of them too.
The wolves will convince the sheep that they're vegeterian or at least not the ones hunting, killing and eating the sheep.
The amount of times I've had people assume the worst of me due to my skin colour IRL but someone tries to assault and kill me IRL and he gets a slap on the wrist and told he's a good boy whose done nothing wrong, beause he's the "preferred skin colour". They probably hope secretly that he finished the job too.
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"on the other side of the spectrum" ?
This statement as I already explained is based on the fallacious principle and horseshoe theory : A theory that affirms that somehow the extrem on the political spectrum are closer than we think.
Mainly used by liberals and centrist people who wanna look rationnal with little to no actual reasonning, this theory fallaciously considers the political spectrum as a lign of relative value spectrum:
Bad values on the extrem, good values around the center.
When in reality. The spectrum looks like this:
Your and other's BS here is useless. I'm not the one who don't care about Palestinian, you are the ones who don't care enough to learn about the REAL solutions behind this conflict and prefer hidding your heads in the sands of "it will never end" and "it's too complicated"
The solution is simple : One state solution.
Is this a radical solution ? Yes.
Is this a complicated solution to apply ? Yes.
Will Israel be mad at this solution ? Yes.
But is this the best solution to create peace ? Yes.
This statement as I already explained is based on the fallacious principle and horseshoe theory : A theory that affirms that somehow the extrem on the political spectrum are closer than we think.
Mainly used by liberals and centrist people who wanna look rationnal with little to no actual reasonning, this theory fallaciously considers the political spectrum as a lign of relative value spectrum:
Bad values on the extrem, good values around the center.
When in reality. The spectrum looks like this:
Your and other's BS here is useless. I'm not the one who don't care about Palestinian, you are the ones who don't care enough to learn about the REAL solutions behind this conflict and prefer hidding your heads in the sands of "it will never end" and "it's too complicated"
The solution is simple : One state solution.
Is this a radical solution ? Yes.
Is this a complicated solution to apply ? Yes.
Will Israel be mad at this solution ? Yes.
But is this the best solution to create peace ? Yes.
Neither Palestinians nor Israelis would want it or prefer it.
Heck, this is out of tune of the ground realities that I stand by my point - only thing you actually care about... Or you can say care about the most is revolution against capitalist system and overthrow it to establish your own system.
I won't deny that some will have it
But Logiko? Nah I really don't believe based on how all his arguments often end up at the one point - against capitalism.
That's what he actually seek.
Oh please
Why your empathy don't show up for people in Africa or Asia or South America?
If you are so ethical then why I haven't seen you or logiko raising sufferings of other people across the world....
No. It's the only materialist, anticolonial and geopolitical complete solution to the problem.
The wishful thinker here are people like you who think you can bring peace between a colonizing, apartheid country who is genociding a populationi, and said population.
Why do you think that? Did you ask them?
But even if it was the case, no one is saying that it would please people at first, we are saying that it is the only rationnal and ethical descision.
I care about that a lot, but I care more about people not dying under oppression. And the current peace tries will not stop the colonization or the apartheid. And it will not give back the lands to Palestinian who were robbed of their properties and history.
I'm simply looking to the big picture. I can actually do both an be also empathetic at the same time my boy.
Stop trying to divert the subject when we are among those who first talked about the colonization and the genocide that happened in the americas, about the subgegation of natives in north america and south. About fighting for justice in Asia or about the genocide and crimes against humanity happening in Congo, Sudan etc.
Face your insecurities, we are not the ones lacking empathy here.
The wishful thinker here are people like you who think you can bring peace between a colonizing, apartheid country who is genociding a populationi, and said population.
Why do you think that? Did you ask them?
But even if it was the case, no one is saying that it would please people at first, we are saying that it is the only rationnal and ethical descision.
I care about that a lot, but I care more about people not dying under oppression. And the current peace tries will not stop the colonization or the apartheid. And it will not give back the lands to Palestinian who were robbed of their properties and history.
I'm simply looking to the big picture. I can actually do both an be also empathetic at the same time my boy.
Stop trying to divert the subject when we are among those who first talked about the colonization and the genocide that happened in the americas, about the subgegation of natives in north america and south. About fighting for justice in Asia or about the genocide and crimes against humanity happening in Congo, Sudan etc.
Face your insecurities, we are not the ones lacking empathy here.
That's a one-dimensional analysis. If you wanna stop a genocide and also want an ancap place to live. It doesn't mean that the genocide is only criticized because the State behind it is capitalistic. To be fair, he ain't no tankie.
And people who raise their voice for Palestine care about Palestinians ! It's not "some among those who show care actually care" which would be more a psychological debate with hierarchies of care between those who have the most relations to people in Gaza.
And people who raise their voice for Palestine care about Palestinians ! It's not "some among those who show care actually care" which would be more a psychological debate with hierarchies of care between those who have the most relations to people in Gaza.
Are you sure I am insecure?
I mean I questioned your ethicality and you went on the spree to justify why you are so ethical and even uber jumped in to justify why he's ethical....lmao
Quite sure I hit some nerve there for both of you to make justifications
I am fine with my insecurities and not being ethical.
But you two? Well ....well...well ..
I mean I questioned your ethicality and you went on the spree to justify why you are so ethical and even uber jumped in to justify why he's ethical....lmao
Quite sure I hit some nerve there for both of you to make justifications
I am fine with my insecurities and not being ethical.
But you two? Well ....well...well ..