Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1162 Spoilers Discussion
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@Dragon777 so garp didn't know shit about the hunting game.
Do you still think he teams up with Roger and fights a human Rocks? Ignoring all the slaves and civvies getting killed?
Either sengoku made the "garp and Roger defeated rocks" Shit or Rocks went berserk somehow, possibly Domi berserk.
Do you still think he teams up with Roger and fights a human Rocks? Ignoring all the slaves and civvies getting killed?
Either sengoku made the "garp and Roger defeated rocks" Shit or Rocks went berserk somehow, possibly Domi berserk.
We’re not necessarily saying that everything characters say is true — what we mean is that Kaidou, with the most insane record of all, witnessed every great pirate, fought alongside Rocks, Whitebeard, Big Mom, and Shiki, saw the strength of Garp and Roger, was on the same island as Rayleigh and Gaban, fought Oden, fought Shanks, invaded the most feared country by the World Government, fought Big Mom for three days, fought Prime Hyogoro, fought the daimyō of Wano, (and more) — and now even fought Imu-Saturn himself.
He became a great pirate, one of the Four Emperors, built a reputation that “in a 1v1, always bet on him”, is called the strongest living creature on land, sea, and air, became the embodiment of strength, feared by admirals and external enemies, and is constantly hyped with tons of statements confirming or implying that he’s the strongest.
So when Kaidou says he’s the strongest, it carries far more credibility than Green Bull saying the same — because the last thing supporting Green Bull is only his own words, while Kaidou has countless feats and statements backing his.
Akainu says something that doesn’t even remotely imply he’s the strongest as clearly as Kaidou does — it’s an absurd ambiguity. He said something like “I’ll sink them all into the sea,” but that doesn’t mean he’s claiming to be the strongest. “Sinking everyone” can be interpreted in many different ways about how he intends to do it.
However, “There’s no one in the world who can defeat me” — no matter how much you try to twist it, there’s no other valid interpretation for that.
He became a great pirate, one of the Four Emperors, built a reputation that “in a 1v1, always bet on him”, is called the strongest living creature on land, sea, and air, became the embodiment of strength, feared by admirals and external enemies, and is constantly hyped with tons of statements confirming or implying that he’s the strongest.
So when Kaidou says he’s the strongest, it carries far more credibility than Green Bull saying the same — because the last thing supporting Green Bull is only his own words, while Kaidou has countless feats and statements backing his.
Akainu says something that doesn’t even remotely imply he’s the strongest as clearly as Kaidou does — it’s an absurd ambiguity. He said something like “I’ll sink them all into the sea,” but that doesn’t mean he’s claiming to be the strongest. “Sinking everyone” can be interpreted in many different ways about how he intends to do it.
However, “There’s no one in the world who can defeat me” — no matter how much you try to twist it, there’s no other valid interpretation for that.
CoC can negate Fruit Abilities.
Strong enough application can negate the user being able to use the Fruit entirely.
Example of prior is Great Dragon Shock in Punk Hazard, where Zoro didn't make Monet bleed, but his Haki kept her Logia from functioning properly.
Example of the latter is Shanks' wifi diffing Aramaki out of his Logia. Now, I believe Aramaki CAN protect himself from this with Haki, but, he wasn't expecting Shanks, and got surprised.
The reason Seastone is able to stop Devil Fruit users is because of the Sea God's Haki, IMO.
It's possible Luffy will be able to touch Seastone, if he ends up currying favor with the One Piece's Sea God described in the Halley.
Shirahoshi is the Mermaid Princess, Poseidon.
We have Sea Kings.
Who is the King of the Sea Kings? This should be the Sea God described in the Halley: the "Emperor of the Sea" of Sea Kings, the Sea King King, the Sea King Emperor.
God I hope they're hot.
Strong enough application can negate the user being able to use the Fruit entirely.
Example of prior is Great Dragon Shock in Punk Hazard, where Zoro didn't make Monet bleed, but his Haki kept her Logia from functioning properly.
Example of the latter is Shanks' wifi diffing Aramaki out of his Logia. Now, I believe Aramaki CAN protect himself from this with Haki, but, he wasn't expecting Shanks, and got surprised.
The reason Seastone is able to stop Devil Fruit users is because of the Sea God's Haki, IMO.
It's possible Luffy will be able to touch Seastone, if he ends up currying favor with the One Piece's Sea God described in the Halley.
Shirahoshi is the Mermaid Princess, Poseidon.
We have Sea Kings.
Who is the King of the Sea Kings? This should be the Sea God described in the Halley: the "Emperor of the Sea" of Sea Kings, the Sea King King, the Sea King Emperor.
God I hope they're hot.
He made an admiral run away
The Five Elders said he could do us a lot of damage
He One Shot Law's rival
He was the only new generation on Kaido's list to stop him
He defeated Loki
He was respected by Mohawk to take the poster for him and apologize to Shanks
Buggy thinks he could be the next king
His fighting style is exactly like Rocks and Roger
His haki has been compared to Joy Boy
No one has even half the hype
The Five Elders said he could do us a lot of damage
He One Shot Law's rival
He was the only new generation on Kaido's list to stop him
He defeated Loki
He was respected by Mohawk to take the poster for him and apologize to Shanks
Buggy thinks he could be the next king
His fighting style is exactly like Rocks and Roger
His haki has been compared to Joy Boy
No one has even half the hype
He made an admiral run away
The Five Elders said he could do us a lot of damage
He One Shot Law's rival
He was the only new generation on Kaido's list to stop him
He defeated Loki
He was respected by Mohawk to take the poster for him and apologize to Shanks
Buggy thinks he could be the next king
His fighting style is exactly like Rocks and Roger
His haki has been compared to Joy Boy
No one has even half the hype
The Five Elders said he could do us a lot of damage
He One Shot Law's rival
He was the only new generation on Kaido's list to stop him
He defeated Loki
He was respected by Mohawk to take the poster for him and apologize to Shanks
Buggy thinks he could be the next king
His fighting style is exactly like Rocks and Roger
His haki has been compared to Joy Boy
No one has even half the hype
He's Child of destiny because he's destined to make BB the great one
- Zoro vs Monet wasnt a situation of any of her DF powers being turned off. That was raw fear paralyzation which Mihawk showed at Marineford and Cracker proceeded to show at WCI. Monet was still a Logia hence she was completely fine even after the slash, with basically 0 damage.
- Emeth and Shanks situations are situations where the enemy is caught off-guard by immense Haki attack and turn their DF off.
Thats why I disagree on CoC regardless of strength being able to negated another user's DF, unless that person is completely overwhelmed, but then at that point its got nothing to do with negating the DF but simply putting the fear of God into that person with the weaker will.
Now CoC could be effective in negating foreign DF abilities on yourself. But being able to force somebody to not use their DF ability wouldn't make any sense, imo , considering the amount top tiers who go for DFs.
- Emeth and Shanks situations are situations where the enemy is caught off-guard by immense Haki attack and turn their DF off.
Thats why I disagree on CoC regardless of strength being able to negated another user's DF, unless that person is completely overwhelmed, but then at that point its got nothing to do with negating the DF but simply putting the fear of God into that person with the weaker will.
Now CoC could be effective in negating foreign DF abilities on yourself. But being able to force somebody to not use their DF ability wouldn't make any sense, imo , considering the amount top tiers who go for DFs.
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