Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1162 Spoilers Discussion
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What if Garp doesn't want to talk about GV because he realized he helped defeat the wrong guy @EmperorKinyagi
There are only two ways possible.
Either Roger and Garp didn't fight Xebec at all. They simply played role in breaking Rocks pirates and WG gave them the credits because IMU's existence can't be revealed and Garlic became the champion because of number of slaves he killed.
Or....
Garp was fed with lies that Xebec killed the civilians. And, he teamed up with Roger to take on Xebec
But then, IMU already appeared so why he will back down from fighting Xebec now?
Either Roger and Garp didn't fight Xebec at all. They simply played role in breaking Rocks pirates and WG gave them the credits because IMU's existence can't be revealed and Garlic became the champion because of number of slaves he killed.
Or....
Garp was fed with lies that Xebec killed the civilians. And, he teamed up with Roger to take on Xebec
But then, IMU already appeared so why he will back down from fighting Xebec now?
Everyday we get closer to Vinsmoke Romeo being canon
What’s next? Nami is part of the legendary thief family “Goldiggers”
Franky’s ancestor from 900 years ago “Mechaboy” created Emet to save Joyboy
Chopper is part of rare extinct race of blue-nosed reindeers who committed taboo against WG by stealing Imu’s cotton candy
What’s next? Nami is part of the legendary thief family “Goldiggers”
Franky’s ancestor from 900 years ago “Mechaboy” created Emet to save Joyboy
Chopper is part of rare extinct race of blue-nosed reindeers who committed taboo against WG by stealing Imu’s cotton candy
Right and that's why i'm saying he so far hasn't brought up in change. So he saw the corruption of the WG at Ohara (which is weird since he should already know about the giant slave network of the WG as a Vice-Admiral), he then took the promotion to be an admiral years after that... and did nothing to bring up any change. Instead became the most laziest marine top tier.. That's morally worst than Garp. Garp still kept his passion for putting criminals in their place and protecting civilians. He simply never attempted to change the system. Kuzan not only saw a similar incident, but with years of thinking and reflecting upon it... he took a position with authority to bring change... and did jackshit. Now to be clear i'm not holding that against Kuzan, since there's other marines like Smoker who've already said they wouldn't be doing shit Fujitora is doing even as an admiral.
If the change we're talking about is based on morality. Where we're saying Garp is morally fraud because even though he spends most his times fighting criminals and pirates who terrorize civilians, but refuses to take a stance against the CD. Kuzan is being brought up as somebody who doesn't bootlick the CD anymore... while also being the most lazy top tier in history of the marines, I would assume being correct would be a point no? Since we're talking about morality. Kuzan's morality of joining mass murderers to empower and help Teach get closer to his goal, due to w.e secret goal he might have, isn't any better than Garp training young marines with good morals and fighting criminals/pirates while not rebelling against the CD... Garp actively as a Marine is still doing overall more good than Kuzan as a BBP, just off the fact he's inspiring younger marines to fight criminals and protect civilians. Kuzan is inspiring criminals who harm civilians.
Like Fujitora, he's flat out better than Garp, which I've stated numerous times though in general. Even Akainu I think is more passionate and bringing upon change than Garp ever did. Saka and Fuji the two most passionate marines to exist, while ideologically on two different ends of justice. Opposites of Sengoku and Garp who accepted the system while doing the most good they could within it.
Dragon just a different breed. Though, I think not enough is stressed upon the fact Dragon and Garp still communicate with each other to this day. So it's not gonna be out of realm of possibilities we see Garp leading a group of marines whenever Dragon actually starts the frontal war with the CD. TBC, I'm not saying Garp is morally a great guy, I think he's just like your normal "good marine", nothing particularly special in the moral department.
MB for the long post.
If the change we're talking about is based on morality. Where we're saying Garp is morally fraud because even though he spends most his times fighting criminals and pirates who terrorize civilians, but refuses to take a stance against the CD. Kuzan is being brought up as somebody who doesn't bootlick the CD anymore... while also being the most lazy top tier in history of the marines, I would assume being correct would be a point no? Since we're talking about morality. Kuzan's morality of joining mass murderers to empower and help Teach get closer to his goal, due to w.e secret goal he might have, isn't any better than Garp training young marines with good morals and fighting criminals/pirates while not rebelling against the CD... Garp actively as a Marine is still doing overall more good than Kuzan as a BBP, just off the fact he's inspiring younger marines to fight criminals and protect civilians. Kuzan is inspiring criminals who harm civilians.
Like Fujitora, he's flat out better than Garp, which I've stated numerous times though in general. Even Akainu I think is more passionate and bringing upon change than Garp ever did. Saka and Fuji the two most passionate marines to exist, while ideologically on two different ends of justice. Opposites of Sengoku and Garp who accepted the system while doing the most good they could within it.
Dragon just a different breed. Though, I think not enough is stressed upon the fact Dragon and Garp still communicate with each other to this day. So it's not gonna be out of realm of possibilities we see Garp leading a group of marines whenever Dragon actually starts the frontal war with the CD. TBC, I'm not saying Garp is morally a great guy, I think he's just like your normal "good marine", nothing particularly special in the moral department.
MB for the long post.
During his time as Admiral, Kuzan’s laziness came from doing only the bare minimum, a result of witnessing Ohara firsthand and coming to understand how the world truly operates. He lost his passion for the job because he knew what it was truly serving in the grand scheme. Everything he did afterward seemed to have been built toward the Fleet Admiral position, which represented, in his eyes, his only real chance to make meaningful change. When he didn’t achieve that, he couldn’t simply return to his Admiral post and pretend to play his part, the goal that allowed him to cope with serving the WG was out of the picture.
I don't care about what he could have done differently, the point here is he can't stomach supporting the monsters who control the WG, while Garp is busy supporting them.
Nah. Unless Garp never figured it out even today, it doesn't make sense.
The most plausible thing for me still is, Rocks going berserk.
Oda has set this up in the background too. Rocks one shot Garling. Garling will be looking for revenge. Rocks thinks he saved his wife and son.
If Garling kills Eris in front of Rocks as revenge he will be devastated. Him being mentally broken will allow imu to try and domi reverse him. Rocks will get domi reversed. But his rage takes over, imu loses control of him. And Rocks goes berserk on friend and foe alike. Killing CDs and slaves alike.
This forces garp and roger to team up.
The most plausible thing for me still is, Rocks going berserk.
Oda has set this up in the background too. Rocks one shot Garling. Garling will be looking for revenge. Rocks thinks he saved his wife and son.
If Garling kills Eris in front of Rocks as revenge he will be devastated. Him being mentally broken will allow imu to try and domi reverse him. Rocks will get domi reversed. But his rage takes over, imu loses control of him. And Rocks goes berserk on friend and foe alike. Killing CDs and slaves alike.
This forces garp and roger to team up.
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