Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

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But if Imu has no issue dealing with the likes of Roger, Rocks, Garp and WB but he was on his knees and sweating buckets from JB haki blast which was compared to Shanks then that is the biggest Shanks upscale we have. This puts Shanks above the likes of Rocks and Roger.
The context of that panel wasn't comparing Shanks haki to JB. It was a rhetorical by the shock that they witnessed haki that even surpassed Shank
 
Wait, if the climax of GV is Imu turning Rocks into a demon that everyone fights, then if Oda wants to parallel it with Elbaf.... the giant closest to Rocks' legacy might get turned.:josad:
 
Bruh there is no ambiguity.


Joyboy is top ceiling.

Shanks haki was said comparable to Joyboy's haki...this means close but not on par.


And, you know what's interesting...IMU tanked AdCOC attacks from everyone....all at the same time.


Haki doesn't transcends everything.

To take down IMU, there is clearly the need of some dfs. Xebec was looking for two.

One could be what Loki has.
Nika and Yami are another two
Yeah, Oda had no reason to compare JBs haki with Shanks. Idk why he did that.
You got raws or fool summary telling you that everyone used ACoC attacks? We know Sommers recovered from ACoC attacks of Gaban so Imu should have no issue dealing with higher damage.
 
Ope ope lore being more important than gura gura in 2025 you love to see it
tbh if Imu is immortal due to the Ope, this basically sets up Law to die for Luffy.

because Law isn’t going to simply undo Imu’s immortality. That would kill Imu and every Gorosei bar Garling, as they are only alive due to immortality.
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Bruh there is no ambiguity.


Joyboy is top ceiling.

Shanks haki was said comparable to Joyboy's haki...this means close but not on par.


And, you know what's interesting...IMU tanked AdCOC attacks from everyone....all at the same time.


Haki doesn't transcends everything.

To take down IMU, there is clearly the need of some dfs. Xebec was looking for two. Teach spend decades looking for Yami

One could be what Loki has.
Nika and Yami are another two
Joyboy’s haki did negate Imu’s powers. It sent the gorosei home and had Imu shaking.
 
tbh if Imu is immortal due to the Ope, this basically sets up Law to die for Luffy.

because Law isn’t going to simply undo Imu’s immortality. That would kill Imu and every Gorosei bar Garling, as they are only alive due to immortality.
Luffy letting his friend die over him is not happening lmao. Specially after Oda said he doesn't like killing characters and we've seen Luffy communicate after being KOed
 
Lets not forget

The entire hype oda build from past 1163 chapters for Yonkous, PK and Xebec

All the titles he gave....


Got sidelined in one chapter.
Well, titles are valid in a relative sense...title holders are the top of the humanverse....it is a different story with respect to an entity that is unknown to the world...besides, at this moment in the flashback, they haven't even become yonko, PK, WSM, WSC or whatever title...better Oda be specific and explain on how even titles came into picture or how they are able to become yonkos or PK when Imu was seen by them....
 
Some sane people had been telling people to understand the one of the purpose of the flashback. It is to hype the current enemy that the SHs are going to face. The sad part though is that this solidifies Imu as the main villain of this arc which means they wont be the FV. And only BB stocks are going to rise from this.
Not really a fan of the powercreep if Roger, Rocks, Garp, WB, BM and Kaido are not able to damage Imu. It will depend on the panels though if ACoC was used or not type shit. It could also be that Imu cant be harmed unless his real body is damaged in the Pangea castle and hence all damage is recovered from when possessing any subordinate.
But if Imu has no issue dealing with the likes of Roger, Rocks, Garp and WB but he was on his knees and sweating buckets from JB haki blast which was compared to Shanks then that is the biggest Shanks upscale we have. This puts Shanks above the likes of Rocks and Roger.
Feels weird though that Imu was not impressive enough to make Kaido accept him as being able to defeat Kaido but instead waited for JB to come and defeat him.
Sad day for the old gen wankers though who were putting Roger/WB above everyone like Madara/Hashirama.
Shanks fought NO ONE (in terms of top tiers)so far, we didn't have seen nothing from him
Meanwhile Wuffy is the most davyfightbackian warrior right now
sheesh
 
The context of that panel wasn't comparing Shanks haki to JB. It was a rhetorical by the shock that they witnessed haki that even surpassed Shank
I trust Sandman when it comes to these translations and he said the dialogue showed ambiguity about which is stronger Shanks or JBs. (Someone posted the screenshot) and I am not putting Shanks haki above JBs. I was saying that JBs haki had Imu sweating buckets back in Pangea castle and Shanks haki was directly compared by the author to this JB haki. Even if Roger/Rocks/Garp/WB get this type of comparison and portrayal they still dont get the above then everyone type of Madara/Hashirama hype and portrayal.
 

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Yeah, Oda had no reason to compare JBs haki with Shanks. Idk why he did that.
You got raws or fool summary telling you that everyone used ACoC attacks? We know Sommers recovered from ACoC attacks of Gaban so Imu should have no issue dealing with higher damage.
All I know is don't ever fuckn bite for oda's hype game.

This guy is an absolute clown.

He uses hype for characters as a plot device and it varies as per convenience.


And, all you need to know is the whole purpose of double page is that 6 people which includes 3 top pirates of that era and Garp near their prime + Kaido with df and BM ....gave their best shot

And, nothing happened to IMU. His df is broken hax...
 
I will accept that when Shanks and Mihawk are confirmed weaker than Roger/WB
Right now Shanks haki is compared to JB (with ambiguity of which is stronger) and Mihawk is confirmed stronger than Shanks. Not to mention that Shanks/Mihawk have been called the strongest of rivals.
Show me the panel of anyone saying Hawk is stronger than Shanks or that he ever beat him, and strongest of rivals? Where was that said? OP Magazine? :gokulaugh:
 

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Well, titles are valid in a relative sense...title holders are the top of the humanverse....it is a different story with respect to an entity that is unknown to the world...besides, at this moment in the flashback, they haven't even become yonko, PK, WSM, WSC or whatever title...better Oda be specific and explain on how even titles came into picture or how they are able to become yonkos or PK when Imu was seen by them....
They don't need to become yonkou or pk...

You have Xebec there.... whose portrayal clearly speaks where he stands in comparison to Yonkous and PK

You have Garp and Roger around their prime age.

You have WB and BM around 34 years old age.


If they failed to do anything with Xebec being there, they will fail to do even now.
 
All I know is don't ever fuckn bite for oda's hype game.

This guy is an absolute clown.

He uses hype for characters as a plot device and it varies as per convenience.


And, all you need to know is the whole purpose of double page is that 6 people which includes 3 top pirates of that era and Garp near their prime + Kaido with df and BM ....gave their best shot

And, nothing happened to IMU. His df is broken hax...
Agreed about the fake hype, only bet on the chars that will surpass everyone at the end and you wont be fucked by Odas hype game.

It is indeed great that Imu took attacks from all those and still was okay (still need panels)

I think the counter to hax is probably very special like it can only be done under certain conditions.
 
Called it
Imu is definitely going to domi reverse Loki putting him at full power +
  1. Luffy vs Loki
  2. Zoro and Sanji vs dorry and brogy
  3. The rest of the crew trying to deal with the rest of the holy knights. Personally as for main players or at least final attacks
    • Usopp vs kinlingham (fear)
    • Brook vs gunko (past)
    • Chopper vs summers (please oda + only other one not to get a wano fight)
Zoro and Sanji against Dorry and Broggy?
Zoro single-handedly defeats them both in a single page.
Zoro will take on a Holy Knight, no less.
 

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Agreed about the fake hype, only bet on the chars that will surpass everyone at the end and you wont be fucked by Odas hype game.

It is indeed great that Imu took attacks from all those and still was okay (still need panels)

I think the counter to hax is probably very special like it can only be done under certain conditions.
"Still okay" would be an understatement.

There is not even a scratch. He didn't even sweat. Lmao

We all know what's the counter

Nika (Liberator) + Yami (Anti df Darkness which engulfs everything)
 
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