Versus Battle Kaido of the 100 Beasts vs The Jūbi

[RayanOO]

But who says Mother Flame was used at maximum?

Don’t give ammos to our enemies with this kind of arguments

The shockwave of Mother Flame was around the entire world, that scales above anything we saw in Naruto so far.

There are some great feats in Naruto too

 

[Sentinel]

There are some great feats in Naruto too

The moon feats clearly carry the Naruto verse a lot.

Are there some good feats in Boruto as well? I mean, the Otsutsuki travel in space, how are they doing it? If it's done by flying, I guess they have to be at least LS to make travelling in space remotely possible.

From what I know, the Jubi/ten tails are little parasites which are used by the Otsutsuki members to slowly suck out the life energy of their targetted planets. Then they take the energy in form of capsules and eat it to gain their power. Isn't that right?

The Otsutsuki god seems to live in a higher dimensional plane of existence as well. Nothing in One Piece comes remotely close to that. Unless the Otsutsuki god can only interact with a lower domain with an avatar.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Don’t give ammos to our enemies with this kind of arguments



There are some great feats in Naruto too

Moon feat and the one with Naruto and Sasuke is also good.
But potency matters. No joke but mother flame might be able to destroy the entire moon with full power.

One piece verse is very underestimated...
Naruto verse has great feats too, but unlike during Dressrosa time, Current One Piece doesn't need to fear zo fave Naruto verse.

We also have aliens and immortal monsters in verse, also a weapon who can make devasting damage.

When it come to AP it seems like Bleach verse fall behind the two others.

 

[Steven]

I've been reading posts when people scale Juubi to god tiers but after some research, this is far from the truth.

The Juubi which fought Hagoromo and Hamura isn't the same mindless Juubi which was used in the war. It was a mindless beast which spammed its attacks left and right but when a concentrated barrier was surrounding the Juubi, it couldn't deal damage to it at all.

When Obito absorbed the Juubi, he learned to use its power and thus, grew stronger than the Juubi. Yet, 1 Rinnegan Madara would beat the shit out of Juubito - and even the same Juudara, someone far stronger than Juubito, only reached Hagoromo's level when he absorbed the Shinjuu Tree and gained his 2nd Rinnegan. That's when god tiers truly start. Juubi is still far from it.

Furthermore, nowhere in the war arc has Juubi ever shown the feat to pull the moon, lol. This thing didn't even have the chakra control to break Hashirama's barrier and people believe it is pulling a Toneri feat? Toneri himself was Hamura level near the end of the movie with the Tenseigan. And even without the Tenseigan, Toneri is an Otsutsuki, just like Asura and Indra. So it's obvious where he stands.

About Mother Flame, no character scales to the ancient weapon so far, so even if this weapon can destroy planets, OP top tiers are far from this kind of power output as well.

Juubi in the War scales by no means to his former self against the Bros.It also never moved the Moon like Toneri did lol.

But who says Mother Flame was used at maximum?

The energy in the Void Century > the energy of Motherflame. Vegapunk can’t remotely replicate it, which tells us a peak power of an Ancient Weapon is above a Motherflame fueled Ancient Weapon. The better power source is the reason why we know it can. No, it isn’t the peak if we know superior energy exists lol. It’s just the best visual feat in the verse, not the “current peak” . It is objectively inferior to the energy back then.

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Tot Musica also exist.Are we gonna ignore that thing because reasons?

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

My punch bigger

W bro. You and BigDaddy Saran are the same tier.

 

[Steven]

life wipe

Ancient weapons are all equal

And life wiping on a Planet like the OP World would give you EASLY Moonlevel results at minimum

Tot Musica was going to merge Uta World and the OP World.And IM will by no means below Tot Musica

 

[Sentinel]

Ancient weapons are all equal

And life wiping on a Planet like the OP World would give you EASLY Moonlevel results at minimum

Tot Musica was going to merge Uta World and the OP World.And IM will by no means below Tot Musica

It depends on if Oda intends to draw Imu with this much power as well. After all, although Tot Musica would completely own Juubi, this is still a movie-only villain and Idk how much Oda wants to use this kind of power structure into his own manga.

Yes, the Ancient Weapons have repeatedly shown to have planet surface wiping potential (since the OP world is several times larger than ours it is a big deal) but Tot Musica merging two entire worlds is on a whole other level.

 

[Eustass97]

What intrigues me is that there are actually people who think the Mother Flame is only island-level lol

It’s pretty common in debates for someone to say that.

I see the Mother Flame as a life-wiper at the very least.

 

[Shiroyru]

What intrigues me is that there are actually people who think the Mother Flame is only island-level lol

It’s pretty common in debates for someone to say that.

I see the Mother Flame as a life-wiper at the very least.

It needs to fire many times to be a life wiper

 

[soupongo]

(since the OP world is several times larger than ours it is a big deal) .

lol, source?

 

[Finalbeta]

You don't think Kaido and Flaming Bagura stands a chance?

The Ten-Tails can spam innumerable Bijuudama because it has an immense chakra reserve (it can continuously harvest the chakra from the planet itself) and Kaido is going to be overwhelmed quite rapidly.

Each Bijuudama would furthermore be significantly more powerful than any attack Kaido ever showed off.