Anime & Manga One Piece Spoilers - The Waiting Room

[Fujishiro]

But if you are power scaling off of Harald, a a guy who explicitly stopped fighting several decades ago, then Rocks shouldn’t have gotten stronger since Harald very clearly didn’t get stronger

???? He stopped fighting him very recently.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Oda just really wanted to hammer home that these two are and will remain equal. I find it easier to reconcile then Xebec not having gotten stronger in 18 years.

Tbh I think there comes a time in all characters life that they peak unless they gain some external power up.

 

[thisnewtechnique]

Ryokugyu neg diffs Primebeard:

Pre-Chinjao Garp:

Big Mom confirms Whitebeard almost killed her in one fodder clearing blow:

Seriously Webec’s crew is just trash, this entire crew combined can maybe extreme diff one Admiral

Twerkbull shat himself from a wifihaki of an old beard equal

Theres levels to it

 

[Fujishiro]

Aside from just aging, it's also implied that Harald literally does not train/fight at all.

Yet he's still relative to Xebec

Some people are just genetic freaks, so they keep growing stronger while doing nothing but that said where was this implied?

 

[Nekomamushi]

 

[Fujishiro]

Feels like oda just didn’t think about growth and wrote xebec at the same level throughout the flashback.

This, people just overthink things @Kurozumi Wiwi @EmperorKinyagi

If we take powerscaling glasses off It’s much easier to reconcile this then an active pirate who didn’t have a crew yet remaining at the same strength level through his career of almost two decades.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Some people are just genetic freaks, so they keep growing stronger while doing nothing but that said where was this implied?

The fact that his entire goal is to embrace diplomacy, abandon conflict, and transition Elbaf to a land of peace

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

???? He stopped fighting him very recently.

No, renounced violence like 30 years ago

you’re forgetting that he went to the reverie because he had already renounced violence a long time before that

Harald has more or less been the same power level for several decades now… Yet he is somehow always equal to Rocks the entire time

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

This, people just overthink things @Kurozumi Wiwi @EmperorKinyagi

If we take powerscaling glasses off It’s much easier to reconcile this then an active pirate who didn’t have a crew yet remaining at the same strength level through his career of almost two decades.

Whitebeard was active for 30-40 years after his stated prime at 38 but never changed in strength.

I don’t think it’s very difficult to say someone stagnated, like how are you supposed to grow if you’re the strongest on the seas?

 

[Fujishiro]

The fact that his entire goal is to embrace diplomacy, abandon conflict, and transition Elbaf to a land of peace

Being peaceful ≠ Weaken your individual might.

No, renounced violence like 30 years ago

you’re forgetting that he went to the reverie because he had already renounced violence a long time before that

Harald has more or less been the same power level for several decades now… Yet he is somehow always equal to Rocks the entire time

I’m talking within the flashback he fought Xebec recently.

Whitebeard was active for 30-40 years after his stated prime at 38 but never changed in strength.

I don’t think it’s very difficult to say someone stagnated, like how are you supposed to grow if you’re the strongest on the seas?

People have different caps.

I believe it depends on the individual. Rox was still holding a sword in the picture we saw after he renounced his people’s history of violence, he might have been training himself while being peaceful.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

If we take powerscaling glasses off It’s much easier to reconcile this then an active pirate who didn’t have a crew yet remaining at the same strength level through his career of almost two decades.

Why not? Aramaki and Issho were "civilians" just 2 years ago yet they're considered at their prime. If Xebec turn to 50 something on GV, he was a 100% in his prime during the reverie

 

[Fujishiro]

Why not? Aramaki and Issho were "civilians" just 2 years ago yet they're considered at their prime. If Xebec turn to 50 something on GV, he was a 100% in his prime during the reverie

I think those two got stronger after they joined the navy.

I believe humans exit their primes around their early 60s but when they enter it is dependant on the individual.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Demon xebec has black blade

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Marijoa Xebec and GV Xebec are the same level lol. That's why Harald stayed Xebec's equal despite chosing the path of a peaceful diplomat @EmperorKinyagi

 

[Shiroyru]

Aside from just aging, it's also implied that Harald literally does not train/fight at all.

Yet he's still relative to Xebec

I doubt Oda put much thought into it tbh

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I think those two got stronger after they joined the navy.

I believe humans exit their primes around their early 60s but when they enter it is dependant on the individual.

Yeah but if it depend it can be argued Xebec peaked earlier for story reason.
After all Luffy is going to be in his prime in his early twenties.
There's just no much basis to Xebec getting stronger aside from "he should", Oda didn't even modify his design like he usually does to show a character growth.
Staying Harald's equal would suggest the growth was minimal

 

[Fujishiro]

Yeah but if it depend it can be argued Xebec peaked earlier for story reason.
After all Luffy is going to be in his prime in his early twenties.
There's just no much basis to Xebec getting stronger aside from "he should", Oda didn't even modify his design like he usually does to show a character growth.
Staying Harald's equal would suggest the growth was minimal

I understand your POV. I think the Harald thing was just Oda showing how strong Harald was and kept up with Xebec through the laters active career as a pirate.

 

[sparrow210]

@sparrow210 you have any completely useless "hints" ?

 

[Cross_Marian]

Just waiting

 

[Jokerr]

BM stocks?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

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