Fanclub The V̶i̶n̶s̶m̶o̶k̶e̶ Sanji FC: The Prince of love
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Atlas punching Marine fodder had better animation than Sanji attacking Nusjuro
The Toei Sanji hate might be real
The Toei Sanji hate might be real
This people removed the haki from pissjuros blade to make him look better while the staple of wano toei is und to fart black lightning and effetcs everwhere just to make him look better against damaji
I think the "nothing happened" moment x100 will happen, even since the vegapank leaks. I don't know if those leaks are true or not, but Oda gave Sanji the ability to get a super resistant and sturdy body for a reason. My guess is he will tank some attack like the one that destroyed Lulusia or something related to Mother Flame. I have this thing in mind.
I totally agree with you (not on the Oda nickname btw, I can't get it, I'm sorry)
I totally agree with you (not on the Oda nickname btw, I can't get it, I'm sorry)
Lmao it was obvious it would be bad...
A few months or even year or so, i said that this panel is gonna be very hard to animate, because the panel shows speed and a huge impact. Since it's a panel, you can show those at the same time, but when animating if you would focus too much on speed, the big impact on the sword would be unnoticed by most and if you focus too much on the ''clash'', the speed aspect would suffer. It's stil doable.
But Toei found a solution, just fuck both of those things up lmao
This was so fucking bad, why are they avoiding showings Sanji's speed this whole arc? Every speed moment was ass and/or changed. There was no speed in this scene and the impact was non-existent.
But ofc what they did was extend the Nusjuro biting scene with Sanji, because what else.
Just wait for when Zoro clashes with Nusjurou, cubes gonna be flying everywhere lmao
It's a meme at this point how they treat Sanji, nobody can deny that.
A few months or even year or so, i said that this panel is gonna be very hard to animate, because the panel shows speed and a huge impact. Since it's a panel, you can show those at the same time, but when animating if you would focus too much on speed, the big impact on the sword would be unnoticed by most and if you focus too much on the ''clash'', the speed aspect would suffer. It's stil doable.
But Toei found a solution, just fuck both of those things up lmao
This was so fucking bad, why are they avoiding showings Sanji's speed this whole arc? Every speed moment was ass and/or changed. There was no speed in this scene and the impact was non-existent.
But ofc what they did was extend the Nusjuro biting scene with Sanji, because what else.
Just wait for when Zoro clashes with Nusjurou, cubes gonna be flying everywhere lmao
It's a meme at this point how they treat Sanji, nobody can deny that.
Sorry mate been overwhelmed with work so haven't been able to reply to this.
With regards to your takeaway on the raid suit, I don't really agree with it tbh.
Even with all of the Germa development Sanji got on WCI there's absolutely no reason for his development to have been based on the raid suit which is representative of them. Sanji rejected everything Germa and there was really no reconciliation on that part, he only kept the raid suit with him coz he thought it'd be a useful tool (*which might seem contradictory given the aforementioned point, but it's in line with Sanji's selfless/sacrificial nature). Moreover one of the main takeaways from that arc was that Sanji is the polar opposite what is percieved to be Germa/what Judge views as the perfect super soldier and is just fine the way he is. Narrative-wise, the logical route would be for Sanji to prove Judge wrong and build notoriety for himself that goes even beyond Germa, him wearing the raid suit will prevent him from achieving that.
With regards to the takeaway from WCI, I think you're missing the forest for the tress by hyper-focusing on the raid suit.
The main takeaway from WCI with regards to seeds for strength development for Sanji imo was his "lineage factor", the raid suit was just a convenient catalyst to help awaken that. Lineage factor is the basis for Sanji's exoskeleton, fire powers (most likely) and even Power of Love. Also the whole Germa biology wasn't just a plus for Sanji development wise but it also gave us exposition on the lineage factor which is a big plot point in OP. It's literally what is at the core of the Seraphim for example and also related to Devil Fruits. Moreover destroying the raid suit was good consistent character-writing for him giving his stance on Germa imo.
I get your point though on the raid suit being the catalyst for Sanji's gene awakening being a bit random but that's just because Oda is lazy and sloppy at times with his writing. There were several indications that the raid suit enhances the Vinsmoke's abilities, so it being the catalyst for Sanji's awakening is not that farfetched to be honest but the fact that I'm making an assertion about this just goes to show how poorly Oda handled the explanation on that. It did however end up being a pretty good plot tool for Sanji's chatacter development.
With regards to the Sora ting, Sanji's mother wasn't necessarily against the modifications but rather Judge taking empathy/emotions away from her children (strong evidence of this reiju) and turns out Sanji still has his emotions even with the gene awakening so Sora's sacrifice wasn't in vein. If anything it could very well turn out to be the reason why Sanji was able to keep his emotions and might even be the genesis of PoL as far as Sanji is concerned.
With regards to your takeaway on the raid suit, I don't really agree with it tbh.
Even with all of the Germa development Sanji got on WCI there's absolutely no reason for his development to have been based on the raid suit which is representative of them. Sanji rejected everything Germa and there was really no reconciliation on that part, he only kept the raid suit with him coz he thought it'd be a useful tool (*which might seem contradictory given the aforementioned point, but it's in line with Sanji's selfless/sacrificial nature). Moreover one of the main takeaways from that arc was that Sanji is the polar opposite what is percieved to be Germa/what Judge views as the perfect super soldier and is just fine the way he is. Narrative-wise, the logical route would be for Sanji to prove Judge wrong and build notoriety for himself that goes even beyond Germa, him wearing the raid suit will prevent him from achieving that.
With regards to the takeaway from WCI, I think you're missing the forest for the tress by hyper-focusing on the raid suit.
The main takeaway from WCI with regards to seeds for strength development for Sanji imo was his "lineage factor", the raid suit was just a convenient catalyst to help awaken that. Lineage factor is the basis for Sanji's exoskeleton, fire powers (most likely) and even Power of Love. Also the whole Germa biology wasn't just a plus for Sanji development wise but it also gave us exposition on the lineage factor which is a big plot point in OP. It's literally what is at the core of the Seraphim for example and also related to Devil Fruits. Moreover destroying the raid suit was good consistent character-writing for him giving his stance on Germa imo.
I get your point though on the raid suit being the catalyst for Sanji's gene awakening being a bit random but that's just because Oda is lazy and sloppy at times with his writing. There were several indications that the raid suit enhances the Vinsmoke's abilities, so it being the catalyst for Sanji's awakening is not that farfetched to be honest but the fact that I'm making an assertion about this just goes to show how poorly Oda handled the explanation on that. It did however end up being a pretty good plot tool for Sanji's chatacter development.
With regards to the Sora ting, Sanji's mother wasn't necessarily against the modifications but rather Judge taking empathy/emotions away from her children (strong evidence of this reiju) and turns out Sanji still has his emotions even with the gene awakening so Sora's sacrifice wasn't in vein. If anything it could very well turn out to be the reason why Sanji was able to keep his emotions and might even be the genesis of PoL as far as Sanji is concerned.
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Getting rid of the suit was the best way to show Sanji's growth. It had his purpose and it was cool but it changed too much for Sanji fighting style in my honest opinion. I already said that if the suit was used for single things, for stealth missions for example and if the suit only power up was invisibility I was ok for Sanji to retain it. But the air boots and the cape shield was something extra Sanji already had. It was redundant. But the visual style of Sanji with the suit was very cool design, it was like the culmination of Sanji being a super hero who defends the weakest members of the crew.
For the fact that the suit, conveniently, unlocked something in Sanji well ok, it can be abrupt but I'm okay with it. Oda decided to give some hints in the early Queen fight, I'm pretty much satisfied.
Replying to puck, I'm more convinced that Diable Jambe can't be from Germa. It does not add up why Sanji used it before the modifications unlock. With Sora sacrifice, with the sbs, the emotions burning hotter than flame, I can rack my brain forever but the only conclusion I get is that Diable Jambe is really just the manifestation of Sanji's emotion which can be translated to the visual manifestation of Haki. Now Oda could explain it or not. I'm kinda ok with both.
For the fact that the suit, conveniently, unlocked something in Sanji well ok, it can be abrupt but I'm okay with it. Oda decided to give some hints in the early Queen fight, I'm pretty much satisfied.
Replying to puck, I'm more convinced that Diable Jambe can't be from Germa. It does not add up why Sanji used it before the modifications unlock. With Sora sacrifice, with the sbs, the emotions burning hotter than flame, I can rack my brain forever but the only conclusion I get is that Diable Jambe is really just the manifestation of Sanji's emotion which can be translated to the visual manifestation of Haki. Now Oda could explain it or not. I'm kinda ok with both.
I don't think it would have been that big of a change. Is being able to turn invisible by projecting the background on yourself that game changing? It is not like the Suke Suke no mi, this kind of invisibility should be ineffective against any good CoO user. The exoskeleton and the stat boosts he received on Onigashima are basically identical to the RS ones: sturdier and fire resistant body, greater strength behind his kicks. The cape use as a shield is so situational it wouldn't have changed much imo.
I'm also a fan of the RS design and, for those who aren't, let's not forget Sanji wanted to ask Franky and Usopp to modify its design. The idea of a suit-like RS 2.0 with the stylish gloves he wore on Onigashima as canister would have worked great.
I believe he went for the exoskeleton path to make everything simpler and distinguish Sanji from Franky the tech dude. The fact the transformation started the moment he wore the RS for the third time is extremely random, I still hope it has something to do with King AND the RS. Sanji having some lunarian blood due to Sora's drug could explain the fire and the timing of his lineage factor modification flaring up, especially with the RS acting as a catalyst
I'm also a fan of the RS design and, for those who aren't, let's not forget Sanji wanted to ask Franky and Usopp to modify its design. The idea of a suit-like RS 2.0 with the stylish gloves he wore on Onigashima as canister would have worked great.
I believe he went for the exoskeleton path to make everything simpler and distinguish Sanji from Franky the tech dude. The fact the transformation started the moment he wore the RS for the third time is extremely random, I still hope it has something to do with King AND the RS. Sanji having some lunarian blood due to Sora's drug could explain the fire and the timing of his lineage factor modification flaring up, especially with the RS acting as a catalyst