Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

In a limited period of time to show off these characters, Oda’s made it abundantly clear who’s strong and who’s the background characters.

it’s sad to see Shikki fans cheering on Hotei level feats
It’s almost like we know the future of these events already where Shiki and Whitebeard rise to ruling the seas as equals alongside Roger.

We don’t need anything lmao
 

K!NG HARA$H!MA

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Yeah it all adds up

Felt like it was guaranteed after Vegapunk’s “we don’t know who was right or wrong” speech

The 20 Kings had a valid reason to stand against the oppressive ruler of the world but took it too far
Took it too far?

The 20 OG kings tried to come up with system to rule the world, creating international laws and democratic norm where's everyone is equal, rejecting the notion of a single king. Hence empty throne was surrounded by swords. Alabasta Queen still ruled her country without any issues despite rejecting to live in holy lands.


What happened is someone hijacked the system and established a racial supremacist hierarchy. Maybe the descendants of the OG kings
 
Hmmm very possible now, especially since this implies she lives

I assume the chapter also addresses what Whitebeard is doing that too. That last spoiler got a bunch of things right like Kaido/BM losing to Rocks, which makes me think Whitebeard is in fact fighting Garling?

Maybe he does really get that scar from him?
Eris probably got kidnapped later on the the HKs like Ginny did. She was forced to become one of Garling’s wives (like how Shamrock made Ginny his wife), and has been secretly talking to Loki for the past few years. This is why Mosa tells Loki to not shout and why Mosa said they wouldn’t be able to talk for a while conveniently right after we learn MJ is in flames
 
I don't understand what makes Goofy so special. All Shanks had to do was to eat the Nika Nika No Mi... or just give it to someone with a D. in his name. Or just give it to Dragon, he is more worthy than Goofy.
At this point, Shanks himself might unironically be a D too

His mom is from GV same as the Davy clan / Xebec family

Lolda can retcon him into a D. clan member whenever he wants

:hapnoel:
 
Eris probably got kidnapped later on the the HKs like Ginny did. She was forced to become one of Garling’s wives (like how Shamrock made Ginny his wife), and has been secretly talking to Loki for the past few years. This is why Mosa tells Loki to not shout and why Mosa said they wouldn’t be able to talk for a while conveniently right after we learn MJ is in flames
bro give it up she didn't get kidnapped
 
I think an entire island being wiped clean from the map by the fight of several top tiers shouldn't be impossible considering we have Roger, Garp, Whitebeard and now Majin Xebec.

Or when Xebec finally regains his control back and tells everyone to leave the island, he's destroying God Valley with the attempt to kill Imu. Then Moriah takes the remains of the island.
I really don't think Xebec regaining his control is an option now.

And Roger, Garp should have enough AP/DC alongside DR xebec to destroy the entire island.

We already have examples of it,
- Kaidou and Luffy would have destroyed Onigashima
- Akainu and Aokiji changed the geography of the island. If not destroyed, inhabitable either way.
- Garp and Sengoku vs Shiki, destroyed half of the marineford. When Garp and Sengoku probably held back.
 
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