Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

[EmperorKinyagi]

Do you think Loki hasnt changed much in the 6 yrs since rat king stomped and dragged him back to Elbaf?

Yeah I don’t think he got stronger at all

Wait, you think he got magically stronger sitting chained up to a tree? What kind of retarded logic is this LMAO

Harald is js him. When they clashed at reverie, Xebec wanted him as his partner already. He Xebec's only equal thru and thru as Oda emphasized thru their battle

Exactly. He was Xebec’s equal the entire time while giving up fighting himself. What does that tell you?

 

[HellBlazer04]

On top of that he's already gotten a mental nerf by resisting control over possession. Oda really can't hand any Ls to this gigabeast Webec

I read some spoilers that say Xebec begs roger and garp to kill him, which means he isn't going all out. If those spoilers are really true then that is giga upscale for Xebec.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Luffys ideology of being king is being free. King of the Pirates is the freest man on the seas, being King of the world would equivalent to him being the freest man in the world

Yea and xebec / bb take the word king literally, seeing how Imu is the current one want to simply replace him

 

[Sir Yasheen]

This is why Blackbeard needs to fall first, because Blackbeard cant become King of the World unless he's Pirate King.

And if he can/could it just entirely nullifies the entire point of this series lol

I think it’s possible the BBP will fall but Blackbeard will return in the Imu fight.

Xebec said that Davys being captured leads to a fate worse than death. As such when Luffy defeats him, a marine will likely be there to help in the war and will capture Teach who’ll be tortured on Mariejoa for luffy to later free and lead to teach helping Luffy fulfill this ancestral “promise”

 

[moreha9685]

You got an invalid link here As Lama

It's for the bait thread that got Lulusia'd earlier today.

 

[GeneralP123]

Oda: Teach is the final villain.
Fans: That's not what Whitebeard said tho

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I think it’s possible the BBP will fall but Blackbeard will return in the Imu fight.

Xebec said that Davys being captured leads to a fate worse than death. As such when Luffy defeats him, a marine will likely be there to help in the war and will capture Teach who’ll be tortured on Mariejoa for luffy to later free and lead to teach helping Luffy fulfill this ancestral “promise”

Luffy rescuing Blackbeard?
Can't see that happening.
If.we get a rescue plot I'll be Vivi

 

[omegalul]

they told me gv big meme had a 'score to settle' with gv wb, so that meant she = wb

but how come xebec neg diff's meme and crydo, whilst wb blocks him?

wb > meme + crydo

 

[thisnewtechnique]

Webec wasked Larp and Loger wo will wim.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Shiroyru]

Yeah I don’t think he got stronger at all

Wait, you think he got magically stronger sitting chained up to a tree? What kind of retarded logic is this LMAO



Exactly. He was Xebec’s equal the entire time while giving up fighting himself. What does that tell you?

Crazy how pre-prime Loki beat Domi Harald

 

[GeneralP123]

I honestly don't care about what Whitebeard said, Roger isn't waiting for Teach? Of course he isn't, being the Pirate King isn't Teach's main goal anyway, he wants so much more.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Webec wasked Larp and Loger wo will wim.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Garp has VOAT too?

 

[Lifeismeh]

True, because we have to nitpick at that lvl. Garp is not below WB at all, whereas before this flashback I had WB above Roger by a hair and clearly above Garp. That's over now.

The gap between Shiki and BM is bigger, it's not nitpicking.

As long as you not putting Garp above WB the rest is debatable.

For me WB DF is an overkill to not at least lean on putting him above Garp even if it's by a hair

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I honestly don't care about what Whitebeard said, Roger isn't waiting for Teach? Of course he isn't, being the Pirate King isn't Teach's main goal anyway, he wants so much more.

Probably retcon

 

[Paperchampion23]

I honestly don't care about what Whitebeard said, Roger isn't waiting for Teach? Of course he isn't, being the Pirate King isn't Teach's main goal anyway, he wants so much more.

Technically so does Luffy? He has a secret dream beyond PK.

Teach still needs to become PK to become King of the World, and we all know its not happening. Him becoming King of the World without One Piece entirely invalidates the journey for One Piece and the entire point of Roger's era and death.

 

[moreha9685]

This is why Blackbeard needs to fall first, because Blackbeard cant become King of the World unless he's Pirate King.

And if he can/could it just entirely nullifies the entire point of this series lol

Why can't he be KotW without being PK? IMU is currently KotW without the One Piece treasure.

BB's combination of DFs will just become a danger nobody saw coming, which will allow BB to defeat & absorb IMU.

Meanwhile, Luffy's journey will get him the treasure, which will be used to stop BB.

King of Land vs King of Sea
Two Ds with similar yet opposite ideologies duking it out EOS, after the third outsider (IMU) has already been defeated by the side of the wronged Ds (Davies), who themselves need to be stopped before turning into something much worse--thus, by stopping this new, bigger threat, JB's will will also be fulfilled, bringing the world together as one.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Yet, Xebec ended up asking his two real rivals, Roger and Garp, to end his misery. Whitebeard always was in their shadows..

Xebec has no Rivals

 

[L57]

Shiki would dogwalk meme
Like wanzui is already an extreme diff fight for her

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Luffy rescuing Blackbeard?
Can't see that happening.
If.we get a rescue plot I'll be Vivi

It’d be accidental. Think Crocodile in Marineford

 

[GeneralP123]

Probably retcon

Or Whitebeard, the guy that said he'll save Ace isn't the all-seeing prophet some people think he is.