Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

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In the case of pirates, being loyal is the same as being a dog. You are subservient to the captain if you are a subordinate.
Rocks doesn't need to order WB, because WB already feels indebted to him. The dialogue from 1162 indicates that clearly.


Preskip WB felt way different than this. His interaction with Shanks clear indication of that
That was not the case for the rocks pirate there whole thing was sticking together to get gold etc etc or back stabbing each other .
The dialogue from 1162 indicates that WB chose to stay with rocks not because he was his subordinate or crew member but as a person.
WB saying i drinking on your tab so i staying was more of a line showing he consider him friend .
WB is the only person that there for rocks while Kaido there to show off his DF and BM there after Kaido none of them there to help rocks or there for him even with them being crew members .
We going to have to agree to disagree cause i don't see WB stay with rocks as how you see it lol.
 
It really means nothing for waido or BM though. Waido is rookie and way weaker compared to prime self. I really hoped oda would give us a more clear picture of how strong xebec was but now its would be harder given he is amped by domi reversi.
that's because crydo and meme are no longer relevant. Base xebec is already > them

if roger does the joyboy haki shit vs demon xebec... he would be in a different tier to those bums
 
How is Kaido not more special than Xebec? He survived like 40 executions or some shit, and the saying was you should bet on him in a one on one fight. Xebec never even beat his Harald. Kaido is pretty much the only character without an equal in OP, and given his ownership of Pluton, he´s clearly ahead of Xebec as a pirate.
Kaido fans are catching up to Hawk fans as the most delusional part of this fanbase
 
How is Kaido not more special than Xebec? He survived like 40 executions or some shit, and the saying was you should bet on him in a one on one fight. Xebec never even beat his Harald. Kaido is pretty much the only character without an equal in OP, and given his ownership of Pluton, he´s clearly ahead of Xebec as a pirate.
sUrViVeD 4o eXeCuTiOnS


Soup are you really a retard or playing one?

Xebec is way way way more special story wise and lore wise than kaido.

Get off the kaido dick.

It's funny you were claiming to be an admiral fan, hates the rat and BB, but rides kaido's dick 24/7

I think you're just a closet kaido fan claiming to be an admiral fan.
 
Shiki never tried to topple either? He tried to work alongside Roger and when the two couldn’t, they fought to a draw. That’s literally equality.

Shiki is alike WB and Roger. However, he retired before the great pirate era. Trying to dilute him to “yonko level” is so disingenuous as the Yonko are just those chasing Roger’s legacy, Shiki never did so. He matched Roger and fought for a different dream.

Idk why Shiki hurts you so much
Shiki is aiming for supremacy that's a fact.
He also says to WB that Roger is a great wall to both of them.
WB was the one that never care to topple Roger or anybody.
Shiki is exactly the way you describe Yonko lvl,
Top pirate aiming for supremacy, building an army and fails to topple Roger or WB even though he tries, and was not remembered as a gold medalist like Roger and WB.
Praise Roger and respect his strength like the Yonkos. Etc
 
That was not the case for the rocks pirate there whole thing was sticking together to get gold etc etc or back stabbing each other .
Yet they followed Rocks to GV for a singular purpose

WB saying i drinking on your tab so i staying was more of a line showing he consider him friend .
No, it means he is indebted to him.

WB is the only person that there for rocks while Kaido there to show off his DF and BM there after Kaido none of them there to help rocks or there for him even with them being crew members .
Yet WB and the rest followed his lead in attacking Imu. As I said, all of them are like dogs.
 
The idea that a subordinate can't eventually become stronger or as strong as the captain is absurd.

Is EoS BB not going to surpass WB?
Yeah but there's probably a bigger gap with Xebec too. Xebec is easily 5-10 years older than WB, and clearly an older brother type of figure.
Yeah, but BB was just scheming in the background.

Just look at Whitebeard's aura in his introduction even in old age on meds and tell me how Whitebeard as a 36 year old (Shanks became Yonko at 33) when already having his DF, ACoC and supreme grade blade, was a subordinate to another man he viewed as "the big bro".

 
Shiki is aiming for supremacy that's a fact.
He also says to WB that Roger is a great wall to both of them.
WB was the one that never care to topple Roger or anybody.
Shiki is exactly the way you describe Yonko lvl,
Top pirate aiming for supremacy, building an army and fails to topple Roger or WB even though he tries, and was not remembered as a gold medalist like Roger and WB.
Praise Roger and respect his strength like the Yonkos. Etc
Shiki was aiming to topple the WG, he didn’t care to topple WB and Roger. He wanted to work with Roger.

The yonko are those chasing Roger’s shadow, Shiki could stand by his side.
 
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