Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

So did Oda retcon this scene out of existence lol.​

Seems like it, the mountains are still intact

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

People who think we will get on screen days long fights are dellusional.

Aokiji vs Akainu will never be surpassed.

 

[Jeanstealer]

So did Oda retcon this scene out of existence lol.​

And some of us for a whole week entertained the thought of this being a part of the Eris escape moment. Can't trust Lolda with anything at this point.

 

[ElderOnitar]

I like Nen or Reiatsu more, everyone can have it(like haki), but everyone gains his own unique/personal power with it, lot of different skills/abilities, way lot of different fight styles.

The thing is that DFs are supposed to be this series' unique fighting system, haki is just a powerup to close the gaps and enhance your own fighting style.
But haki itself is boring, the black lightning visuals aren't all that, and the top dogs of GV have pretty generic fighting styles without anything to spice it up all that much.

 

[park_min young]

Trafalgoat still delivers the best visual finishers, no one even comes close. Mes is easily the most stylish move in the entire series. Imagine if Oyashit could rip people’s hearts out like that. Trafalgoat has both the versatility and raw power that haki sisters covets.

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[Ven437]

Where does Gunko fit in all this? Will she swipe in to deal last blow to DR Xebec or fight a few Wings/Shiki/Rocks pirates? @Etzel Andergast

The longer we dont see her the more hype she gets tbh. Considering she was somehow shoehorned into this mess of a flashback

 

[Fujishiro]

Aokiji vs Akainu will never be surpassed.

Yeah, an offscreen fight we never saw. Loda.

Blud never heard of the show, dont tell.. adage.

 

[Saint Wentorno]

@EmperorKinyagi
God Valley is the hypest shit on paper but it all looks so sterile

It solidifies that Oda is just making up shit as he goes.
All of it looks like a retcon fever dream that makes little sense.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

The thing is that DFs are supposed to be this series' unique fighting system, haki is just a powerup to close the gaps and enhance your own fighting style.
But haki itself is boring, the black lightning visuals aren't all that, and the top dogs of GV have pretty generic fighting styles without anything to spice it up all that much.

The mistake was giving all these old legends the same fighting style with little variation.
If Garling doesnt have a cool animal in his sword like Shamrock to spice things up, he can go fuck himself

 

[Fujishiro]

Seems like it, the mountains are still intact

Loda.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Yeah, an offscreen fight we never saw. Loda.

Blud never heard of the show, dont tell.. adage.

Maybe Oda should off-screen all fights, considering how much better they are in the readers head

 

[Jinjoo]

"YoU tRaItOr, YoU wIlL rEgReT tHiS, sHiRoHiGe!"

Why the fuck is captain John blushing 😭😭
What the fuck bogard doing in that line up. Wait up is he the young marine John is warning kaido of ? What in the yaoi Romeo Juliet is going on there.

And the fuck kind of dress is rocks wearing. He looks like a homeless bum 🤣🤣

 

[MonsterKaido]

I look at Whitebeard Quake power and think"yeah great almost every top tier can do something similar now"...
Adv CoC is boring, it doesn´t gain someone a unique "own" power.

I like Nen or Reiatsu more, everyone can have it(like haki), but everyone gains his own unique/personal power with it, lot of different skills/abilities, way lot of different fight styles.

This lacks right now with One Piece.
Adv CoC is boring, because it is all the same, with characters doing something similar again and again.

I think the issue with haki having different abilities is that it completely erases the purpose of devil fruits. Oda should have simply given DFs to old legends. Or have each of one of them specialize in one type of haki like ray having highest acoa level , waban having best FS , rocks having strongest wifi type of haki , roger having best acoc coating etc.

 

[Fujishiro]

The mistake was giving all these old legends the same fighting style with little variation.
If Garling doesnt have a cool animal in his sword like Shamrock to spice things up, he can go fuck himself

You can bash on Kaido all you want but atleast he had a cool fighting style and variations.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

You can bash on Kaido all you want but atleast he had a cool fighting style and variations.

Drunken Bagua was pretty cool

 

[moreha9685]

Yeah, an offscreen fight we never saw. Loda.

Blud never heard of the show, dont tell.. adage.

Honestly one of the worst off-paneled fights in the manga. The "top tiers battle for 10 days!" lines of reasoning it spawned still wreck expectations to this day.

 

[Fujishiro]

Bogard did nothing this entire flashback lol. He might be worse then Kong.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Where does Gunko fit in all this? Will she swipe in to deal last blow to DR Xebec or fight a few Wings/Shiki/Rocks pirates? @Etzel Andergast

The longer we dont see her the more hype she gets tbh. Considering she was somehow shoehorned into this mess of a flashback

On her way to get low diffed by Silver Axe

 

[Fujishiro]

Honestly one of the worst off-paneled fights in the manga. The "top tiers battle for 10 days!" lines of reasoning it spawned still wreck expectations to this day.

Yes and those expectations will never be met.

 

[moreha9685]

Bogard did nothing this entire flashback lol. He might be worse then Kong.

Bogard is just Garp's shadow which ate the Fodder Fodder No Mi.