Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

[MonochromeYoru]

Some SBS or Vivre card said that his prime was 38, hes 36 now. 2 years can make up for a lot in terms of getting stronger.

he's basically in his prime...

he has gura AND acoc already. So 2 years won't do much at all

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Dory and Brogy could be Zoro and Sanji’s opponents lol, they received a significant buff.

Try flipping the roles for a second, can you really picture a DR’d Whitebeard over 60 feet tall losing a clash to base Xebec? Lmfao.

These guys are all in the same tier, especially the so-called “era trio.” Oda couldn’t have made it any clearer, and he’s emphasized it multiple times. Xebec hasn’t shown anything Roger or Garp couldn’t theoretically pull off, and majority of the spotlight has been shared between them.

Their base was already given a bounty of 1.8 Billion??? They don’t need much a boost at all to be very hard fights for Zoro and Sanji?

Also those three are not the same tier, that’s never even been hinted in the manga?

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Karma for trying to bring the dark king down

 

[ZenZu]

Some SBS or Vivre card said that his prime was 38, hes 36 now. 2 years can make up for a lot in terms of getting stronger.

Nah it can't. 2 years is nothing for ACoC veterans. It's a lot for rookie pirates who are just learning about devil fruits and haki though yea.

2 years is just a drop in the bucket for WB at that point, try 10 years and you'd see some change.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Genuinely. Also the height argument is so weird. Xebecs height has fluctuated from way shorter than Whitebeard to taller than him

I mean BM got bigger too against Kid and Law but I doubt she got more than 1.25x stronger, or Kid and Law would never have beaten her even with all the plot on their side.

 

[SakazOuki]

Comedy gold 😂
Xebec knees only vs Meme is a low diff

 

[AL sama]

Redon didn't do full summary??

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Nah it can't. 2 years is nothing for ACoC veterans. It's a lot for rookie pirates who are just learning about devil fruits and haki though yea.

2 years is just a drop in the bucket for WB at that point, try 10 years and you'd see some change.

Wouldn've been much better for Linlin to not show aCOC in GV

 

[soupongo]

I think ordinary characters don´t peak until their 40s and 50s maybe. I mean, I doubt someone like Akainu was all that strong in his 30s

 

[comrade]

Some SBS or Vivre card said that his prime was 38, hes 36 now. 2 years can make up for a lot in terms of getting stronger.

Rocks Pirates spent over a decade roaming the sea and fighting their peers. Post GV Whitebeard becomes a family man adopting orphans.

It's over for Righthandmanbeard.

 

[sanjikun]

Nah it can't. 2 years is nothing for ACoC veterans. It's a lot for rookie pirates who are just learning about devil fruits and haki though yea.

2 years is just a drop in the bucket for WB at that point, try 10 years and you'd see some change.

2 years is MF BB and Current BB. Dude didn't just learn Haki. He's in his 40s.

You people need to stop coping. Even with Imu Xebec we still don't have a skysplit moment yet.

 

[SakazOuki]

Yonkotards 25 years into the story realizing they can’t fucking read 😂

 

[ZenZu]

Wouldn've been much better for Linlin to not show aCOC in GV

Yup I warned BM stans the worst thing that could happen to BM is her show off ACoC, because it just highlights how big the gap between someone like her and Garp is. Further reinforced with this latest chapter.

What is BM missing on paper, she has her df, she has fire and lightning, she has her blade, ACoC. Is she missing napoleon or something? She's also not far off from her prime, atleast not as far off as we originally thought.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I mean BM got bigger too against Kid and Law but I doubt she got more than 1.25x stronger, or Kid and Law would never have beaten her even with all the plot on their side.

Genuinely. At best she got stronger enough to equal Drunken Kaido. And there’s no way that was more than 1.1 times

 

[soupongo]

Rocks Pirates spent over a decade roaming the sea and fighting their peers. Post GV Whitebeard becomes a family man adopting orphans.

It's over for Righthandmanbeard.

It doesn´t really matter anyway, Primebeard isn´t going to be relevant in the story going forward. His punch against Akainu was pretty much his peak, except maybe the 3 day fight flashback in Wano against a cancer patient

 

[sanjikun]

Blackbeard literally throws disproves all the Yonko hating b.s.

"But, but, but WB was a subordinate" -> So was BB. He will become stronger than his captain.

"But, but, but 36 is not young" -> BB was 38 pre-TS and 40 now.

"2 years is not enough" -> Look at MF BB and Current BB.

 

[ZenZu]

2 years is MF BB and Current BB. Dude didn't just learn Haki. He's in his 40s.

You people need to stop coping. Even with Imu Xebec we still don't have a skysplit moment yet.

Oh yea I forgot, WB gains 2 of the strongest fruits 2 years later......

Blackbeard went from being a borderline hakilet with zero fruits. To arguably the two strongest fruits in the verse. WB already has his saijo, his df, and his ACoC. He is fully complete on paper like his final version.

 

[Fujishiro]

Nah it can't. 2 years is nothing for ACoC veterans. It's a lot for rookie pirates who are just learning about devil fruits and haki though yea.

2 years is just a drop in the bucket for WB at that point, try 10 years and you'd see some change.

This just feels very arbitrary.

 

[sanjikun]

Oh yea I forgot, WB gains 2 of the strongest fruits 2 years later......

Blackbeard went from being a borderline hakilet with zero fruits. To arguably the two strongest fruits in the verse. WB already has his saijo, his df, and his ACoC. He is fully complete on paper.

I said MF BB.

 

[Mathias]

Is this the final arc ? Is Imu gone be defeated by Goofy once they come back to Elbaf ?