Speculations Kid and Law are probably showing up in the second act of Elbaf

#41
By what you are saying how does kidd and law change the situation? They need more than that in this situation. Imo we are going to get updates on them soon but them coming this arc is highly unlikely. By what you are saying the sh's need shanks and Rayleigh to show up not kidd and law.
Ray is in Amazon Lily and will probably stay there. Shanks won’t come mid arc for plot reasons, he has his own agenda.

Kid sank off Elbaf’s coast and Law escaped from an adjacent island. They alone won’t save the SHs, but could help tilt the odds.
 
#43
It's honestly a shame that they didn't manage to improve their crews by now.

Law could have gained so many capable crewmates in Dressrosa and Zou, then both Law and Kidd could have gained even more capable crewmates in Wano. Take for example characters like Cavendish or Ulti, they would have boosted Law and Kidds crews a lot. They are already 300-500M pirates and very capable, both have 1B+ potential given their age.

By now given Kidd & Laws status their best bet is

A) Law-Kidd become co-captains with Killer as #3. Still quite weak behind those 3 though but the co-captains are actually yonko-level together. Yeah, Bepo is also alright if there is Sulong but otherwise no.

B) Join Cross Guild or Luffy (Law) or BB (Kidd)

C) Join revolutionaries

D) Quit pirating
Disagree on them being yonko level, they had so much plot against Meme. Except Buggy they don't push any yonko past high diff and someone like Shanks might low diff them. Seems like Oda at least around Wano planned for them being deliveroo drivers to the actual competitors for OP hence why their crew remained weak.
 
#45
Ray is in Amazon Lily and will probably stay there. Shanks won’t come mid arc for plot reasons, he has his own agenda.

Kid sank off Elbaf’s coast and Law escaped from an adjacent island. They alone won’t save the SHs, but could help tilt the odds.
Power wise that's what they need by your reasoning. Law and kidd do little here if the threat is so big loki and the sh's can't do anything.

Kid and Law both have thier own agendas to. Kidd priority would be revenge on shanks and law's would be recovering his crew. Neither even knows where the sh's are or to even go fight imu. Kidd's main target would be the giants if he came back to elbaf. Why do you keep ignoring they played a part in the destruction of his crew and are just acting like he just waiting to come help? Kidd and law doesn't tilt the odds. If you believe loki would be domi reversed why doesn't law and kidd have that happen to them even easier? I get wanting law and kidd back in the story but they do very little here if they do come back. It's blatantly clear oda is going to give the 4 a boost when they go fight imu.
 
#46
Power wise that's what they need by your reasoning. Law and kidd do little here if the threat is so big loki and the sh's can't do anything.

Kid and Law both have thier own agendas to. Kidd priority would be revenge on shanks and law's would be recovering his crew. Neither even knows where the sh's are or to even go fight imu. Kidd's main target would be the giants if he came back to elbaf. Why do you keep ignoring they played a part in the destruction of his crew and are just acting like he just waiting to come help? Kidd and law doesn't tilt the odds. If you believe loki would be domi reversed why doesn't law and kidd have that happen to them even easier? I get wanting law and kidd back in the story but they do very little here if they do come back. It's blatantly clear oda is going to give the 4 a boost when they go fight imu.
the giant warriors have been domi reversi’d, Gaban was defeated, and Imu seemingly domi’d Qilingham’s nightmares as well.

Which makes it to where the only forces defending Elbaf are now:
  • The SHs
  • The NGWs
  • Jarul
If Kid and Law did nothing but fight the domi giant warriors, that alone would tilt the odds.

especially since we saw that normal giants are no match for them and the weak hats couldn’t even beat Rodo’s pet cat.

Law could cut them into pieces. Kid could trap them in metal or stick them together via awakening. Both could stop them without killing them. And Oda could easily give them a motivation to do so(e.i. Promise of a new ship made from Adam wood).

In any case, multiple Hail Marys are needed for Elbaf to be saved, because they’re getting their ass beat at the moment. Kid and Law showing up is one possibility out of many.
 
#47
the giant warriors have been domi reversi’d, Gaban was defeated, and Imu seemingly domi’d Qilingham’s nightmares as well.

Which makes it to where the only forces defending Elbaf are now:
  • The SHs
  • The NGWs
  • Jarul
If Kid and Law did nothing but fight the domi giant warriors, that alone would tilt the odds.

especially since we saw that normal giants are no match for them and the weak hats couldn’t even beat Rodo’s pet cat.

Law could cut them into pieces. Kid could trap them in metal or stick them together via awakening. Both could stop them without killing them. And Oda could easily give them a motivation to do so(e.i. Promise of a new ship made from Adam wood).

In any case, multiple Hail Marys are needed for Elbaf to be saved, because they’re getting their ass beat at the moment. Kid and Law showing up is one possibility out of many.
Dude kidd kills people and would want revenge on them. There is 0 case that he'd hop in and try to help giants. He'd try to kill both domi reversed and regular giants beforehe thoughtof trying to help luffy. Kidd has no role here and trying to a get revenge on shanks would be his top priority not running to help luffy. If kidd came he'd be a antagonist because he'd want to fight the giants.

Helping beat domi reversed giants isn't something they need help with. Just with the 4 coming back and freeing the sh's they are going to be doing that with the regular giants. To you and what you are say you are putting the situation far out out of the current characters hands then are acting like kidd and law helps improve the situation much. You aren't understanding if they can't do anything kidd and law aren't going to change that. If the current situation is far to much for the current characters kidd and law aren't making much of a difference and they would need much stronger characters like Rayleigh and shanks to come. Kidd and law coming only adds convolution to elbaf as you have to explain way to much for how they'd even arrive. Then on top of that kidds abilities are useless to demons and we don't know how or even if law's hax would work. It's clear oda has set luffy sanji zoro and loki up to have a pu to fight imu and the demons. Loki luffy and zoro are going to use a unique coc that helps fight them which gaban was lecturing them on and sanji is probably unlocking coc this arc. They are clearly set up to be the 4 that's going to over turn that hopeless situation not adding kidd and law who as far as we know are just as useless to demons as the trapped sh's and more domi reversi targets.
 
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