Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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i'm not so sure about that anymore

oda is heavily framing rocks and by extension bb, as kind of good guys/victims

there's a legitimate chance that bb vs shank happens and bb lets shank live lol

then condom, bb and shank can team up against imu

joyboy, a davy, and a CD all teaming up against imu
Shanks has more death flags than they are sbs victims in this manga, he is cooked
 
The same dipshits who kept saying Oden was as strong as present Kaido because there’s no way Kaido could have grown any stronger when he was already 39 are now saying that Roger, who was the same age as this version of Kaido in God Valley, somehow grew so much after that event that he ended up outpacing Garp who, unlike Oden (who died), remained just as active as Roger for the following decades. Make it make sense. :risitears:
None of this ever made sense.

It's just agenda. "Kaido grew stronger" was cope from Kaido/yonko fans. Just as Roger (or Garp) grew is also cope.
Whitebeard reached his prime at 38. Shanks and Mihawk are in their prime at 39/43. Oda is consistent in portraying characters reaching their prime at late 30s

If Kaido/Roger/Garp grew at all, it would be like 95 to 100 kind of growth at best. Small growth in power by honing skills and power a bit.
 
What fights did people want?

Roger and Garp vs Rocks was the only major fight said to have happened.

the other rocks pirates escaped GV and became big shots in their own right. We know this.
I don't think it's about specific match ups so much as meeting the anticipation of the moment, whatever that looks like - so long as it's good.

People certainly expected to learn more about the crews and organisations involved. The Holy Knights showing has been meagre so far. I expected to see more of the Roger Pirates. People expected to see more dramatic dynamics between the Rocks Pirates in terms of conflicts and betrayal.

I can keep going but it's a complete fumble across the board for me.
 
None of this ever made sense.

It's just agenda. "Kaido grew stronger" was cope from Kaido/yonko fans. Just as Roger (or Garp) grew is also cope.
Whitebeard reached his prime at 38. Shanks and Mihawk are in their prime at 39/43. Oda is consistent in portraying characters reaching their prime at late 30s

If Kaido/Roger/Garp grew at all, it would be like 95 to 100 kind of growth at best. Small growth in power by honing skills and power a bit.
Yeah obviously the could grow some small percentage but its indistunghsiable from where they end up
This is even commented on in the meta narrative, like WB has his Supreme grade blade, adcoc and his df already dafaq he is gonna grow some headcanon version of himself with the awakening he never showed? :willight:
 
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