Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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Funnily we were told pre-ts that Roger ~ Garp, people somehow concinved themselves Garp not getting as much "hype'" scenes as WB meant that he was fraudulent and only matched a rookie Roger. As if Oda was going to make Luffy's grandpa a fraud lol
Is this a thing with all top tier Marines? Just getting fraud status from the get go w/o really doing much to deserve it?

I honestly thought only the Admirals got this treatment but after seeing Sengoku slander and this it's actually starting to become a pattern.
 
Is this a thing with all top tier Marines? Just getting fraud status from the get go w/o really doing much to deserve it?

I honestly thought only the Admirals got this treatment but after seeing Sengoku slander and this it's actually starting to become a pattern.
Wengoku slanders still haven't learned their lesson despite Garp destroying their headcanons
 
Roger said he arrived at Lonestar a year before God Valley, he learned of the existence of the “Final Island”, there and wanted to go but couldn’t go because he needed the four poneglyphs, and he knew back then if he made it he would be able to complete his childhood dream.

But you seriously think he had no dream during god valley…
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I still question why Oda had him find Lodestar 39 years ago and not later in the timeline

Part of me thinks it has to do with Shanks on their ship but idk
I think it’s because he wanted to establish that Roger was already a legendary pirate before even God Valley.
 
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