Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
I honestly don't get your obsession over Harald. I'd get if you were pissed about admirals pulling out some crazy things but why do you try so hard against Harald when this dude is Xebec's equal? I mean you also have no issues wanking Lolden - a dude who twerked on the streets for 5 years lol.
Because he can use Oden to gas Luffy up, and Kaidou was an Oden victim so shitting on Oden shits on Luffy's victory. But he hasn't found a way to use Harald for Luffy.
 
Bro I'm also trolling (kinda). But Oldbeard and fat BM are def out of their prime. Lolda already made that pretty clear

He's just afraid of making any decisive top tier clashes result in a legit victory. Theres always an if but condition. Thats why you still got powerscaling debates to this day for yonkos and admirals
I mean, they're out their prime, but they still retain their positions, so how meaningful is it anyway? Maybe it becomes a stamina issue, but the portrayal is pretty much the same.

Roger pirates want to avoid Prime BM-Kaido wants Old BM not to come to Wano
Prime WB splits the sky with Roger-Old WB splits the sky with Shanks

Using irl logic, these guys shouldn't be at the top of the world like they are in universe, but no one is going around saying BM and WB cant be Yonko, they're actually saying that about Luffy, and WB goes around disrespecting younger guys like Shanks and Akainu as brats. And sure they're immortal, but the Gorosei still aged but they pretty much rule the world.
 
Because he can use Oden to gas Luffy up, and Kaidou was an Oden victim so shitting on Oden shits on Luffy's victory. But he hasn't found a way to use Harald for Luffy.
Domi Harald is a Loki victim who is a Shanks victim, and Shanks is “equal to Luffy” because they’re both Yonko
 
I honestly don't get your obsession over Harald. I'd get if you were pissed about admirals pulling out some crazy things but why do you try so hard against Harald when this dude is Xebec's equal? I mean you also have no issues wanking Lolden - a dude who twerked on the streets for 5 years lol.
When people start saying shit like Harald > Primebeard and Harald > Kaido yeah I take a problem with it. Especially when Harald was alive with them.

Your entire Xebec > all rested on this 1 line, and now it's clear that Oda was hinting at Majin Xebec, not base Xebec.

 
The next flashback we're going to see will be crazy. It turns out when invading WCI, Roger needed help to beat Cracker, like his fellow PK level fighter, Dressrosa Luffy.
Yeah, I know you're jealous your faves feats get eclipsed even by DR Luffy, let alone current Luffy.

Only thing holding Luffy back the entire post-TS is just Oda making him lose braincells whenever it's plot convenient.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
This DC is way bigger than anything Roger or Garp showed this chapter. Luffy just lacked Haki to wrap around it.

This is how it looked when he wrapped ACoC around it.


This is a good lesson for those trying to downplay the attack Garp and Roger used on Xebec, damage done to competent opponent > DC.

Their attack took a solo skysplitter down. SKG couldn't even keep Kaidou down for a few seconds, yet we saw how a weaker variant levelled Dressrosa.
 
Yeah, I know you're jealous your faves feats get eclipsed even by DR Luffy, let alone current Luffy.

Only thing holding Luffy back the entire post-TS is just Oda making him lose braincells whenever it's plot convenient.
Yeah, after reading 1100 chapters of OP, I came to the conclusion that Oda nerfs the good guys, so the villains can win. What do you think was the worst nerf of Luffy btw? Imo, I think Oda went way too far when he retconned the fruit he had since chapter 1 into a god mythical zoan that is treated as on a different level from even other mythical zoans, as people actually worship him for it.
 
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