Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

[ZenZu]

Lol his point is obvious. Most admiral fans used to and still scale mediocre attacks from admirals above attacks from yonko just because it "looked" more impressive" or "it had more dc" then here here you are right now acting like some shounen scholar who understand the nuance of paneling and what not lmao

That's to make fun of Yonkou's lack of DC. Admirals along with WB have carried this verse in multiverse discussions.

 

[Bogard]

Equating fruitless Whitebeard to Roger because of a single clash is like equating hybrid Kaido to base Luffy because they equally clashed and split the sky. We know though that later, Kaido was going toe to toe with Luffy and dominating him through all his gears.

Roger was Whitebeard's ceiling. Whitebeard isn't getting past that. With the GV flashback, Garp too becomes Whitebeard's ceiling.

That's the thing. What are you basing things from ?

- GV ? Roger and Whitebeard clashed equally, and later Whitebeard could crash a mountain after blocking Domi Xebec who could overpower both Roger and Garp
- Oden flashback ? Roger and Whitebeard clashed equally

And we know Whitebeard get the WSM title at one point

 

[God Buggy]

Kizaru's true power is too busted to comprehend.

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[ZenZu]

"crude and clumsy" 1010 Luffy punches were making hybrid Kaido vomit blood but we're supposed to believe Garp finisher that could blow holes in a solo skysplitter body would not vaporize his ass out of existence 😭😭😭 ultimate level of brainrot

Sanjikun isn't satisfied, he keeps falling deeper into the hole.

 

[MarineHQ]

"crude and clumsy" 1010 Luffy punches were making hybrid Kaido vomit blood but we're supposed to believe Garp finisher that could blow holes in a solo skysplitter body would not vaporize his ass out of existence 😭😭😭 ultimate level of brainrot

I would never actually read these posts, but tell me he isn't arguing for this.

 

[park_min young]

DC does matter though lol, how else are we supposed to be impressed by the same black scribble attacks? 😂 That’s why he gave Luffy and Kaido gigantic finishers. He even gave Law absurd DC despite his attacks focusing on internal damage. Oda still went all out visually with Puncture Wille.

 

[soupongo]

The verse is capped at 15km, like it or not

 

[Lifeismeh]

That's to make fun of Yonkou's lack of DC. Admirals along with WB have carried this verse in multiverse discussions.

You can't actually deny blatantly that it was a serious argument for admirals AP superiority. You absolutely know that was case.

 

[Shiroyru]

That's to make fun of Yonkou's lack of DC. Admirals along with WB have carried this verse in multiverse discussions.

Oda just got lazy. Post-TS Luffy’s G3 was doing barely any more DC than Pre-TS, despite Luffy getting 10x stronger

 

[sanjikun]

Equating fruitless Whitebeard to Roger because of a single clash is like equating hybrid Kaido to base Luffy because they equally clashed and split the sky. We know though that later, Kaido was going toe to toe with Luffy and dominating him through all his gears.

Roger was Whitebeard's ceiling. Whitebeard isn't getting past that. With the GV flashback, Garp too becomes Whitebeard's ceiling.

I don't think that's a problem, when he translated the KKG's force to Doflamingo's body, propelling him vertically in gravity's direction. Whether I punch the wall with 1000mph or throw a body with 1000mph into the wall, it amounts to the same.

Now compare that with Zoro not only cutting through Pica's torso but lifting the upper body up into the air (in comparison, Kaku's all out Rankyaku could barely shift a tower after cutting it due to the sheer weight involved).

Zoro's attack arguably had more raw force.

Yes, Zoro is stronger than Luffy. Any more mental gymnastics?

It was said in all his adventures, the entire fucking Rocks crew only destroyed 1 country. That's Luffy + Law did in DR.

You simply fail to see that Luffy has been putting in crazy level feats, and the only thing that kept him from being a Yonko level dude, was Rayleigh telling him that "Haki can flow".

Kuzan's battleship training is playing tiddlywinks for him.

 

[OPKnK]

This is how it looked when he wrapped ACoC around it.

This is a good lesson for those trying to downplay the attack Garp and Roger used on Xebec, damage done to competent opponent > DC.

Their attack took a solo skysplitter down. SKG couldn't even keep Kaidou down for a few seconds, yet we saw how a weaker variant levelled Dressrosa.

100% correct .
In fact we see that same attack done on Kaido twice which we know was much more powerful compare to when it hit don.
Since it get ACoA and ACoC add on it and when it hit kaido it did not any damage to the surrounds .
People need to keep in mind how the attack are suppose to hits , who are they are hitting and other aspect like that .

 

[ConquistadoR]

Garp's ultimate technique is basically G4 Kong Gatling with CoC & Fire.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Sanjikun isn't satisfied, he keeps falling deeper into the hole.

what getting a degree in hakilogy does to a man

 

[Rurushu]

"crude and clumsy" 1010 Luffy punches were making hybrid Kaido vomit blood but we're supposed to believe Garp finisher that could blow holes in a solo skysplitter body would not vaporize his ass out of existence 😭😭😭 ultimate level of brainrot

Oden(who has no DC whatsoever) nearly killed Kaido in one blow.
Roger literally cut someone who like 5X more durable than Kaido but somehow it's not impressive because "muh DC".

 

[sanjikun]

Garp's ultimate technique is basically G4 Kong Gatling with CoC & Fire.

I'm not even sure it's that tbh, cause Luffy can suck his fists internally and use tension. Garp is not a rubber human.

Luffy just looked weaker all this time because he didn't use ACoC. Once he started wrapping CoC around his attacks, it was game over.

 

[ZenZu]

You can't actually deny blatantly that it was a serious argument for admirals AP superiority. You absolutely know that was case.

In the context of Admirals, Oda has constantly pointed out that when they are trying their DC is too much for the location to handle. This has been pointed out on MF, PH, MJ, EH.

Now whether Oda actually follows through with this or not, up to this point this has been a consistent theme with the Admirals exclusively. Look no further than Punk Hazard, and the excuse for GB and Fujitora on MJ.

It's hard not to make fun of the Yonkou when they can have a 3 day battle in their basement and everything is intact. This has been presented as an impossibility for the Admirals.

 

[ConquistadoR]

People need to keep in mind how the attack are suppose to hits , who are they are hitting and other aspect like that .

This is just hilarious when you think about it.

CoC KKG looks weak because it was used against Kaido, the toughest guy who falls from a skyisland and has a mild headache.

 

[sanjikun]

what getting a degree in hakilogy does to a man

Nah, I'm like Shanks. I bet on the new generation. You guys can keep Harald and his collection of clouds.

 

[ConquistadoR]

I'm not even sure it's that tbh, cause Luffy can suck his fists internally and use tension. Garp is not a rubber human.

Bro Galaxy Impact sure lands like a Kong Gun tbh.

I'd say Garp is just unlimited Boundman with maybe better Haki.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

In the context of Admirals, Oda has constantly pointed out that when they are trying their DC is too much for the location to handle. This has been pointed out on MF, PH, MJ, EH.

Now whether Oda actually follows through with this or not, up to this point this has been a consistent theme with the Admirals exclusively. Look no further than Punk Hazard, and the excuse for GB and Fujitora on MJ.

It's hard not to make fun of the Yonkou when they can have a 3 day battle in their basement and everything is intact. This has been presented as an impossibility for the Admirals.

This is tbh an L for the admirals

the yonko don’t need to blast their DF powers to take out some YCs, they can just use a haki attack or even just raw strength like with O-Lin