Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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Kaido's title was simply based on "people say"


People should stop taking his panel of 5 characters as "strongest" (they were simply the pirates he respected the most) and his title as ultimate benchmark.


He's not the strongest living being. He never was
You need our most intelligent powerscaler @nik87 to help explain to you why Kaido's title is legit but also a rumor at the same time (this is so he can cope that Kaido is the strongest but Mihawk is still somehow stronger)
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
This is such a cool page. Two top tiers actually discussing combat/haki and how to tackle the foe infront of them.

All things considered this chapter looks pretty solid. Shows you how much this means to Oda that he gave a chapters worth of pure fighting for a flashback. We didn't get shit all for Oden vs Kaidou.
 
@soupongo What was more damaging for the verse, Xebec vs Harald or Luffy and Zoro failing to catch up to a guy running 200 km/h
I know it's for @soupongo, but Gazelleman easily. Just one of a thousand reasons to hate Wano even more. No amount of power-scaling mental gymnastic bs can justify this horseshit.

Just the most recent in a long line of LOda antics that prove feats don't mean jack.
 
This is such a cool page. Two top tiers actually discussing combat/haki and how to tackle the foe infront of them.

All things considered this chapter looks pretty solid. Shows you how much this means to Oda that he gave a chapters worth of pure fighting for a flashback. We didn't get shit all for Oden vs Kaidou.
The anime extended the hell out of Oden vs Kaido lol

It's legit 2 pages in the manga
 
@soupongo What was more damaging for the verse, Xebec vs Harald or Luffy and Zoro failing to catch up to a guy running 200 km/h
I don't think the gazelleman is that weird tbh. No manga is actually consistent with speed, and you know.

Xebec and Harald isn't an antifeat, it's supposed to be extremely impressive that their clash is 15 km. It caps the verse, in my opinion.
 
So armament haki can pretty much cancel any df power :DeepThink:
Haoshoku is an overkill
Don’t think it applies to EVERY power

Certain abilities bypass haki to some degree

Like haki can negate some of Law’s more hax abilities but it’s not like it shuts down his fruit completely

Same for Kidd. His magnetism still worked on Big Mom
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Yeah but i thought u would need atleast haoshoku to cancel toptier awakened attacks,
Seems like u can do that with even armament in theory.
Didn't we kinda see Law do it and he doesn't have CoC? Only the gap matters really.

I doubt we will ever see this play out with just armament. Big Mom and Kaidou were unable to cancel anything Luffy, Law or even Kidd threw at them.

Haki is so unbelievably ass, can I please just see Akainu ripping a hole in someone again or Crocodile sucking someone dry
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Kaido's title was simply based on "people say"


People should stop taking his panel of 5 characters as "strongest" (they were simply the pirates he respected the most) and his title as ultimate benchmark.


He's not the strongest living being. He never was
Lol, are you still coping about this 5 years later? Sorry your favorite character didn't make the list, bro. But that doesn't change the fact that it's the WSC canon top 5, lil bro.
 
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