Character Discussion After how Oda handled the Kuja pirates during the God Valley flashback there is no way to deny he is misogynistic

[The Shaman King]

The Kuja pirates made up like 30% of the God Valley flashback and they fucking sucked

Oda made them all simps

Shaky was the main catalyst for God Valley as everyone wanted to fuck her (Expected rocks who was there for his family,Whitebeard who was there his captain and Kaidos and Big mom who were there for the fruits)

Shaky was a plot device and a damsel in distress

But that is not even the worst part Gloriosa who was shakky's crewmate and friend did absolutely nothing during the part where saving her was the main focus

You know what was even worst about it? Gloriosas reason for helping Shakky is literally "If I helped Shakky,Roger would be gratefull" what the actual fuck?

Shaky is her crewmate and friend and her motivation for saving her is not even for her herself but to try to impress Roger?

What did Mysogonyda mean when he literally wrote a female character who would literally only save her female friend literally just for male approval?

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

One Piece is a story about a damsel in distress. It happened in every arc except Orange Town, Loguetown and a few more short arcs. It's a common view in Japan that females have strict gender roles, so you should expect it in most Japanese media.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

I'm denying it. I don't see any misogyny in the way he writes his female characters.

 

[Konstantis]

The Kuja pirates made up like 30% of the God Valley flashback and they fucking sucked

Oda made them all simps

Shaky was the main catalyst for God Valley as everyone wanted to fuck her (Expected rocks who was there for his family,Whitebeard who was there his family and Kaidos and Big mom who were there for the fruits)

Shaky was a plot device and a damsel in distress

But that is not even the worst part Gloriosa who was shakky's crewmate and friend did absolutely nothing during the part where saving her was the main focus

You know what was even worst about it? Gloriosas reason for helping Shakky is literally "If I helped Shakky,Roger would be gratefull" what the actual fuck?

Shaky is her crewmate and friend and her motivation for saving her is not even for her herself but to try to impress Roger?

What did Mysogonyda mean when he literally wrote a female character who would literally only save her female friend literally just for male approval?

yes

 

[Bad English]

Who cares about these bums

 

[milluki]

oda is preparing us for hancock joining the crew

 

[Juanpiz]

One Piece is a story about a damsel in distress. It happened in every arc except Orange Town, Loguetown and a few more short arcs. It's a common view in Japan that females have strict gender roles, so you should expect it in most Japanese media.

Find the odd ones out

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Think you're 2 decades too late for this realization buddy

 

[Jakeripper23]

Yep

 

[centurion]

 

[Phoenix D. King]

Oda can barely write male characters well post-ts, why would he be able to write females?

 

[Zoinks52]

I don't think Oda is deliberately misogynistic, just repetitive and a bit out of touch.

Like yeah, Gloriosa should've got more focus but she's hardly the only person who gets treated like this in the flashback:
- Rocks and Roger barely interact despite their "rivalry"
- Future Yonko just act like nothing happened and leave after being beaten by DR Xebec
- Silver Axe gets a hype entrance and is introduced as Shiki's rival only to do nothing

I'm getting the vibe that Oda just didn't remember to focus on her.

Also I'm pretty sure Gloriosa WAS worried about Shakky.

The Roger thing was kinda ass. Ngl Gloriosa is pretty badly treated as a character, I feel sorry for her.

Overall I think Oda's approach to female characters isn't great but I think it's not so much his attitude towards women (which does seem old fashioned) but more the way he writes.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

females have strict gender roles

Luffy, surrounded by women

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Now we know why Oda hired JJK editor.

Cuz Naoya is Oda's and Gege's self-inserted.

 

[Mathias]

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

And yet, he's still practically a feminist compared to Kishimoto or Kubo.

 

[JDragon20]

Whitebeard literally says he's there to save Shakky as a friend but wants her to fall in love with him.

 

[Rej]

idk if using stereotypes means being mysoginistic, he also has a wife

but I admit there are some pattern here, they are interesting nevertheless

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

idk if using stereotypes means being mysoginistic, he also has a wife

but I admit there are some pattern here, they are interesting nevertheless

If Oda was the creator of Umamusume, all the girl horses will end up eating grass in the barn and only the males would participate in a race.