Character Discussion After how Oda handled the Kuja pirates during the God Valley flashback there is no way to deny he is misogynistic

[Rumble]

Japanese culture is deeply misogynistic.

 

[Rej]

If Oda was the creator of Umamusume, all the girl horses will end up eating grass in the barn and only the males would participate in a race.

well....maybe

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

well....maybe

I'm deadass.

Oda's gonna make the Uma girls into "breeding" horses if you catch my drip.

 

[Zaretball]

Obviously

 

[Buusatan94]

No need for that, it was already obvious long ago with his handling and writing of characters such as Tashigi, Rebecca, Big Mom and her daughters, etc...

 

[Luffy is the mc]

I enjoyed this more than the original movies tbh.

 

[MonsterKaido]

And yet, he's still practically a feminist compared to Kubo.

Youruichi , Harribel , Unohana , Senjumaru shutara in anime etc are all based and monstrous.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Youruichi , Harribel , Unohana , Senjumaru shutara in anime etc are all based and monstrous.

All monstrous in the chest department too.

 

[MonsterKaido]

All monstrous in the chest department too.

Do you think oda will ever approve of something like this --

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Do you think oda will ever approve of something like this --

Hell nah, too much women aura farming.

 

[NAMELESS]

The Kuja pirates made up like 30% of the God Valley flashback and they fucking sucked

Oda made them all simps

Shaky was the main catalyst for God Valley as everyone wanted to fuck her (Expected rocks who was there for his family,Whitebeard who was there his captain and Kaidos and Big mom who were there for the fruits)

Shaky was a plot device and a damsel in distress

But that is not even the worst part Gloriosa who was shakky's crewmate and friend did absolutely nothing during the part where saving her was the main focus

You know what was even worst about it? Gloriosas reason for helping Shakky is literally "If I helped Shakky,Roger would be gratefull" what the actual fuck?

Shaky is her crewmate and friend and her motivation for saving her is not even for her herself but to try to impress Roger?

What did Mysogonyda mean when he literally wrote a female character who would literally only save her female friend literally just for male approval?

Oda pulls off a damsel in distress type trope every arc.

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

And yet, he's still practically a feminist compared to Kishimoto or Kubo.

Pre-TS Oda maybe. But post-TS Oda actively reduces them to nothing but sex objects. I mean we had a whole shitty mini subplot in GV dedicated for gooners.

Simply choosing to not write women at all like Kishi with minimal fanservice is far better than treating them like sex tools whose only use is fanservice.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Pre-TS Oda maybe. But post-TS Oda actively reduces them to nothing but sex objects. I mean we had a whole shitty mini subplot in GV dedicated for gooners.

Simply choosing to not write women at all like Kishi with minimal fanservice is far better than treating them like sex tools whose only use is fanservice.

So, I guess you forgot the thing with Sakura drugging Naruto so she could try and handle Sasuke and failed miserably and needed Naruto to rescue her then.

I'd also argue it wasn't that he avoided fanservice so much as where Oda can only draw two or three faces for women, Kishimoto's female characters aren’t especially attractive, minus Tsunade.

 

[Juanpiz]

So, I guess you forgot the thing with Sakura drugging Naruto so she could try and handle Sasuke and failed miserably and needed Naruto to rescue her then.

I'd also argue it wasn't that he avoided fanservice so much as where Oda can only draw two or three faces for women, Kishimoto's female characters aren’t especially attractive, minus Tsunade.

Konan
Temari
Magma chick
That one put under genjutsu by itachi
Tsunades Assistant

 

[kekaro]

My Goat Kubo did the sexualizing better and the writing better

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Konan
Temari
Magma chick
That one put under genjutsu by itachi
Tsunades assistent

The Mizukage, sure. The rest...pretty exceedingly average.

I suppose that's not the worst thing ever, but compared to some other female casts like Bleach and Fairy Tale, and it's quite noticeable.

 

[Akai2]

Good. We need to bring back the patriarchy

 

[Juanpiz]

The Mizukage, sure. The rest...pretty exceedingly average.

I suppose that's not the worst thing ever, but compared to some other female casts like Bleach and Fairy Tale, and it's quite noticeable.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

I didn't say they were crones. Just saying compared to other series like Bleach and Fairy Tale, they aren't really that particularly noteworthy.

Also, you've gotten me off the original point I was trying to make about how as bad as Oda could be, Kishi was way worse of a writer for his female cast, dang it.

 

[Juanpiz]

I didn't say they were crones. Just saying compared to other series like Bleach and Fairy Tale, they aren't really that particularly noteworthy.

Also, you've gotten me off the original point I was trying to make about how as bad as Oda could be, Kishi was way worse of a writer for his female cast, dang it.

At least he hasnt Princess Fetish Like oda