Controversial So Rocks was the real deal and Roger was always a Fraud

[Konstantis]

When the chapter where first time Rocks D. Xebec was first mentioned on the Orojackson forum, I said that Rocks was the reason why Roger went on his quest to find the One Piece. When Loki said that it was WG who killed Xebec, Roger fanatics were always building high hopes for Roger being something else than a Fraud. But this is it, he is a Fraud.

The last hope of Roger fans was sending IMU with a massive COC haki to the Marijoise.

Look how it ended? IMU left the place as the real winner of God Valley. True Champion.

Xebec? True Pirate King, the real Rat King, who was betrayed by his own crew, which is fine for pirates.

So what puts Roger above anyone in God Valley? Nothing.

SO in the end, we got 100% confirmation of the Fraud allegation against Roger.

P.S. Second Fraud is Dragon. A dragon that sleeps on Imu and fears Holy Knights.

 

[sanjikun]

So what puts Roger above anyone in God Valley? Nothing.

Crazy it's almost like the Raftel years is what put him above everyone else.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

He's still the greatest explorer since Noland so there's that

 

[Zoinks52]

I guess Roger's path is still open to redemption if Oda lets him shine post GV.

But he'll never be THAT guy again, not with Joyboy having usurped his status as the central overarching goal/destiny of Luffy.

I guess he's transitioned to becoming more of a Shanks parallel at this point.

 

[Sentry22]

When the chapter where first time Rocks D. Xebec was first mentioned on the Orojackson forum, I said that Rocks was the reason why Roger went on his quest to find the One Piece. When Loki said that it was WG who killed Xebec, Roger fanatics were always building high hopes for Roger being something else than a Fraud. But this is it, he is a Fraud.

The last hope of Roger fans was sending IMU with a massive COC haki to the Marijoise.

Look how it ended? IMU left the place as the real winner of God Valley. True Champion.

Xebec? True Pirate King, the real Rat King, who was betrayed by his own crew, which is fine for pirates.

So what puts Roger above anyone in God Valley? Nothing.

SO in the end, we got 100% confirmation of the Fraud allegation against Roger.

P.S. Second Fraud is Dragon. A dragon that sleeps on Imu and fears Holy Knights.

It’s written clearly before the flashback started that this was not yet Rogers Era. But people still ramble on about how much of a fraud Roger is? It’s not Oda’s fault you guys can’t read.

 

[MonsterKaido]

@Definitivo

 

[Konstantis]

It’s written clearly before the flashback started that this was not yet Rogers Era. But people still ramble on about how much of a fraud Roger is? It’s not Oda’s fault you guys can’t read.

I guess Roger's path is still open to redemption if Oda lets him shine post GV.

But he'll never be THAT guy again, not with Joyboy having usurped his status as the central overarching goal/destiny of Luffy.

I guess he's transitioned to becoming more of a Shanks parallel at this point.

Crazy it's almost like the Raftel years is what put him above everyone else.

Roger never fought against the Imu and the WG, so he is a loser from the beginning.

 

[soheilhazrat]

OP readers would say Hashirama is actually a fraud

 

[Definitivo]

Crybec was defeated by Imu, while Roger was never captured.

That's all you need to know.

 

[Konstantis]

Crybec was defeated by Imu, while Roger was never captured.

That's all you need to know.

Yup, you can't lose the battle if you never challenge the real champion

 

[Bad English]

Roger cut Rocks' leg 🦵

 

[Konstantis]

Roger cut Rocks' leg 🦵

Well, Xebec leg is probably like island

 

[centurion]

He's still the greatest explorer since Noland so there's that

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

 

[nik87]

Correct.
I spent years trying to convince people that Roger was nothing special.
Oda did it in one flashback.

 

[kekaro]

Dodger

 

[Psychiatrist]

Rocks really surpassed anyone that carried sword. His hype, portrayal and feats are unmatched till now. Roger needs to show more to redeem himself post GV. Anyways its always "D" at the pinnacle. Indirect Godfy hype.

 

[nik87]

Rocks really surpassed anyone that carried sword. His hype, portrayal and feats are unmatched till now. Roger needs to show more to redeem himself post GV. Anyways its always "D" at the pinnacle. Indirect Godfy hype.

Didnt Rocks amount just to being a Harald's equal?
Nothing I saw from them shows them surpassing everyone with a sword.
They are all behind Zoro in feats. Roger's last chance to do something was God Valley. He is out of chances.

And all these sword swallowers we saw in this flashback are indirect Zoro/Mihawk hype, not Godfy top 1 hype.
He feeds off of Garp and based on Garp's latest feat, Godfy is far from top 1.
When he starts punching holes in people like his grandpa, he will make it into the big bois league.

 

[Psychiatrist]

Didnt Rocks amount just to being a Harald's equal?
Nothing I saw from them shows them surpassing everyone with a sword.
They are all behind Zoro in feats. Roger's last chance to do something was God Valley. He is out of chances.

And all these sword swallowers we saw in this flashback are indirect Zoro/Mihawk hype, not Godfy top 1 hype.
He feeds off of Garp and based on Garp's latest feat, Godfy is far from top 1.
When he starts punching holes in people like his grandpa, he will make it into the big bois league.

Low Offing an admiral and Top HK should be considered a feat, which no swordsman has shown yet.
Garp being a brawler was put down by many here, but he showed he can counter anything with his punches (Godfy hype).
IMU being a god tier was quite visible here, no need to explain why this indirectly upscales Godfy.
Godfy will step over all these top D's... its inevitable now.

 

[Djordje]

Rocks is what everyone wanted Roger to be, including me . But Roger ended up simply being old generation version of Luffy.

Truth to be told I figured out it would end this way , the moment manga went serious and revealed becoming pirate king is not end goal its just side quest before final war. Also Luffy is meant to be another Joyboy not another Roger.