Powers & Abilities "Battle of Attrition Against a Monster": Why 1 on 1 Kaido is the strongest

#61
Nah. Togen totsuka is oden's strongest attack and nothing suggest Kaido was going to die as he was also going to use Thunder bagua by the looks of it. This scene is referenced with G4 luffy using over kong gun. The outcome is indecisive.
This thread is about Kaido supposedly being a tank master. Are you saying that Kaido was going to take even 5 hits from Oden?

If Kaido couldn’t survive 5 hits from Oden, then he ain’t no tank, he was just fighting weaklings

Do you think Kaido can tank even 5 bajrang gun hits? No right?
 

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#62
Honestly Kaido got up very quick after taking oden's finisher. Luffy's haki should be comparable to oden at the very least and Kaido took multiple attacks from him.
well he didnt take odens finisher did he....
That wasn't a 1 on 1 and that wasn't peak Kaido. Oden basically got a free shot because of his size.
lmfao yeah it was 1000+ vs 12 and kaido still nearly lost his life
 
#65
This thread is about Kaido supposedly being a tank master. Are you saying that Kaido was going to take even 5 hits from Oden?

If Kaido couldn’t survive 5 hits from Oden, then he ain’t no tank, he was just fighting weaklings

Do you think Kaido can tank even 5 bajrang gun hits? No right?
What do you think is haki gap between oden and post acoc awakened Luffy?
 
#66
This thread is about Kaido supposedly being a tank master. Are you saying that Kaido was going to take even 5 hits from Oden?

If Kaido couldn’t survive 5 hits from Oden, then he ain’t no tank, he was just fighting weaklings

Do you think Kaido can tank even 5 bajrang gun hits? No right?
Wtf, do you think Roger and WB would just take a point blank Togen Totsuka to the chest without impacting them?

Kaido's tanking ability is way beyond any pirate we've seen so far bar BM.
 
#67
What do you think is haki gap between oden and post acoc awakened Luffy?
I don’t know.

im just saying Kaido wouldn’t get traumatized for 20 years by an attack that just tickled him

Oda didn’t hype up this one attack for like nearly 100 chapters for us to come away thinking it wasn’t devastating
Wtf, do you think Roger and WB would just take a point blank Togen Totsuka to the chest without impacting them?

Kaido's tanking ability is way beyond any pirate we've seen so far bar BM.
Roger and WB would do rocks’ CoC shielding and cancel out Oden’s attacks.

You’re gonna say “well Kaido can also just use haki for defense” and my question is why didn’t he? Huh? Why not? We’ve seen Kaido fight for like at least 20 chapters if we combined his Luffy fight with his supernovas fight with his scabbards fight and even with his Yamato fight.

the man simply doesn’t use Haki defense. Who knows why. I don’t know, he doesn’t. That’s just factually true.

so if we compare Kaido’s defense that he always uses, which is just his Dragon scales versus the level of defense Roger and Whitebeard would use which is CoC shields and Sword blocking, I bet Kaido would go down faster than Roger and Whitebeard
 
#69
I don’t know.

im just saying Kaido wouldn’t get traumatized for 20 years by an attack that just tickled him

Oda didn’t hype up this one attack for like nearly 100 chapters for us to come away thinking it wasn’t devastating

Roger and WB would do rocks’ CoC shielding and cancel out Oden’s attacks.

You’re gonna say “well Kaido can also just use haki for defense” and my question is why didn’t he? Huh? Why not? We’ve seen Kaido fight for like at least 20 chapters if we combined his Luffy fight with his supernovas fight with his scabbards fight and even with his Yamato fight.

the man simply doesn’t use Haki defense. Who knows why. I don’t know, he doesn’t. That’s just factually true.

so if we compare Kaido’s defense that he always uses, which is just his Dragon scales versus the level of defense Roger and Whitebeard would use which is CoC shields and Sword blocking, I bet Kaido would go down faster than Roger and Whitebeard
DR Rocks was 2x stronger than Roger and Garp. That's why that worked.

Kaido is the World's Strongest Creature. There is no pirate that's 2x stronger than him.
 
#70
I don’t know.

im just saying Kaido wouldn’t get traumatized for 20 years by an attack that just tickled him

Oda didn’t hype up this one attack for like nearly 100 chapters for us to come away thinking it wasn’t devastating

Roger and WB would do rocks’ CoC shielding and cancel out Oden’s attacks.

You’re gonna say “well Kaido can also just use haki for defense” and my question is why didn’t he? Huh? Why not? We’ve seen Kaido fight for like at least 20 chapters if we combined his Luffy fight with his supernovas fight with his scabbards fight and even with his Yamato fight.

the man simply doesn’t use Haki defense. Who knows why. I don’t know, he doesn’t. That’s just factually true.

so if we compare Kaido’s defense that he always uses, which is just his Dragon scales versus the level of defense Roger and Whitebeard would use which is CoC shields and Sword blocking, I bet Kaido would go down faster than Roger and Whitebeard
I mean oden was the first to ever scar Kaido permanently. Even rookie Kaido was not scarred by DR amped xebec's attacks.

Luffy's haki is up there on sky split level and nothing states oden's haki is much superior to Luffy's. Kaido should be able to take bunch of attacks from oden as well. For that matter oda even referenced oden with G4 luffy during over kong gun attack.
 
#71
DR Rocks was 2x stronger than Roger and Garp. That's why that worked.

Kaido is the World's Strongest Creature. There is no pirate that's 2x stronger than him.
Dont randomly start adding numbers and explanations to things we don’t have explanations for

Pica already told Zoro that him simply having any haki above Zoro’s would mean he wouldn’t get damaged by Zoro and Zoro agreed

haki shielding is just haki shielding, if you have the power to resist, you do. Zoro tanked A mountain sized explosion point blank with zero damage because his haki could. Not because he has “2x haki points than mountain sized explosions”

Kaido should be able to take bunch of attacks from oden as well.
I thoroughly disagree. Both from the framing of the scene and the fact that This one attack traumatized Kaido for decades, I think Kaido would go down in less than 5 hits

Therefore Kaido isn’t actually a tank, he was just fighting weaklings all throughout Wano
 
#72
Dont randomly start adding numbers and explanations to things we don’t have explanations for

Pica already told Zoro that him simply having any haki above Zoro’s would mean he wouldn’t get damaged by Zoro and Zoro agreed

haki shielding is just haki shielding, if you have the power to resist, you do. Zoro tanked A mountain sized explosion point blank with zero damage because his haki could. Not because he has “2x haki points than mountain sized explosions”


I thoroughly disagree. Both from the framing of the scene and the fact that This one attack traumatized Kaido for decades, I think Kaido would go down in less than 5 hits

Therefore Kaido isn’t actually a tank, he was just fighting weaklings all throughout Wano
Oda simply wrote the end scene of the fight. Oda even referenced oden's exact scene happening with G4 luffy. Making dragon Kaido fall is something even scabbards can do with their togen totsuka and Zoro did the same scar which oden did.
 
#73
Dont randomly start adding numbers and explanations to things we don’t have explanations for

Pica already told Zoro that him simply having any haki above Zoro’s would mean he wouldn’t get damaged by Zoro and Zoro agreed

haki shielding is just haki shielding, if you have the power to resist, you do. Zoro tanked A mountain sized explosion point blank with zero damage because his haki could. Not because he has “2x haki points than mountain sized explosions”


I thoroughly disagree. Both from the framing of the scene and the fact that This one attack traumatized Kaido for decades, I think Kaido would go down in less than 5 hits

Therefore Kaido isn’t actually a tank, he was just fighting weaklings all throughout Wano
If you don't understand what "2" is, it's the number after "1". Roger is 1 person. Roger + Garp = 2 people.

It took 2 people all out to overcome DR Rocks Haki. No pirate who's not Imu-controlled has been that strong. Roger and WB are not 2x stronger than Prime Kaido.
 
#75
If you don't understand what "2" is, it's the number after "1". Roger is 1 person. Roger + Garp = 2 people.

It took 2 people all out to overcome DR Rocks Haki. No pirate who's not Imu-controlled has been that strong. Roger and WB are not 2x stronger than Prime Kaido.
Bar DR Xebec with conqueror coating. Non is tanking that shit.

Togen tosuka and Dragon damnation is one of the highest AP attack in the series so far.
 
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