Controversial Akatsuki VS Imu-Sama

I'm not arguing that the Naruto verse has better DC on average then OP characters. The issue is there's a lot of characters in OP who are pirates going around in the huge world causing destruction that Oda hypes up all the time, and yet nothing as specific as a country. Very few Naruto characters have any intention of going around blowing stuff up, in comparison. They're assassin's.
What's the point in randomly blowing up islands? Even for villains that's retarded.
Narutoverse just ain't it aside from god tiers
 

ZenZu

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In Naruto, during the Fourth Great Ninja War, there was a part where they had to go to the battlefield immediately, and there was only one means of transportation at the speed of light. The characters were afraid of being disintegrated, but nobody talks about that

Here's your "post timeskip" character who fought on the rooftop admitting they can't keep pace with 200km/h and needs to ride a lion dog to try and catch up. :saden:

Lightning speed is truly nothing when these characters can intercept light speed attacks. This is just objectively true. It doesn't make it better when a Pre TS villain was literally the lightning man. Luffy could deal with his speed but he had no chance against Kizaru who casually blitzed him like nothing.

Furthermore, reaction speed and CoO isn't enough if you're too slow. Fujitora would be blitzed left and right by Kizaru if this guy cannot even move as fast as Pre TS G2, both in combat and movement speed.
Nope not true at all. Jimbei is not nearly as mobile as WsW but he low-mid diffed him. Reaction speed is the most important stat.
 
I'm not arguing that the Naruto verse has better DC on average then OP characters. The issue is there's a lot of characters in OP who are pirates going around in the huge world causing destruction that Oda hypes up all the time, and yet nothing as specific as a country. Very few Naruto characters have any intention of going around blowing stuff up, in comparison. They're assassin's.
Fair enough.

Oda used to care for better DC feats, now he reserves this stuff for huge finishers at best. The thing is, Oda isn't even caring anymore about good battle choreography or at least some decent stuff.
 

Here's your "post timeskip" character who fought on the rooftop admitting they can't keep pace with 200km/h and needs to ride a lion dog to try and catch up. :saden:
Anti feats are normal in every verse, tho. You'd be surprised how many anti feats you can find in Dragon Ball when they cannot dodge bullets or get owned by trees.

So that's why I'm usually ignoring anti feats in crossover battles unless there are real inconsistencies.
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Jimbei is not nearly as mobile as WsW but he low-mid diffed him. Reaction speed is the most important stat.
Nope, if Jimbei just had reaction speed, his body wouldn't keep up with Who's Who in the first place. Combat speed is also very important. That's why you see Zoro easily speedblitzing his opponents even though he's not the most mobile character.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Anti feats are normal in every verse, tho. You'd be surprised how many anti feats you can find in Dragon Ball when they cannot dodge bullets or get owned by trees.

So that's why I'm usually ignoring anti feats in crossover battles unless there are real inconsistencies.
It's a statement clearly outlining Okiku's foot speed cap. The other dude tried to bring up a statement of characters unable to move at light speed in the Narutoverse, when we have statement talking about 200km/h being too much in the OPverse for a mid tier.

Also, like I said earlier, reaction speed is by far the most important stat. Jimbei proved he could low-mid diff someone who was easily faster than him in movement speed.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Nope, if Jimbei just had reaction speed, his body wouldn't keep up with Who's Who in the first place. Combat speed is also very important. That's why you see Zoro easily speedblitzing his opponents even though he's not the most mobile character.
That's part of reaction speed, striking speed is baked closely with reactions. Reaction speed isn't about mental reactions, it's about your body being able to react.

Travel speed/Mobility is an entirely different thing. Jimbei was nowhere near as mobile as WsW.
 
What's the point in randomly blowing up islands? Even for villains that's retarded.
Narutoverse just ain't it aside from god tiers
Not necessarily for average characters, but he could have easily done it for:
Kaido/BM:they're insane monsters destroying whatever they want, it wouldn't have been anything insane to say they destroyed a country once
Roja/Rocks: They have really bad tempers and will kill people if they get pushed too much, but again Oda preferred saying Roger destroyed an army and Rocks destroyed towns
Young Harald/Gargling:Idk as much about these two, I guess they're more into slowly killing people for the lols as opposed to large scale destruction, but imo these all just kind of speak to how Oda himself would view the characters. I highly doubt in Oda's mind you can just walk up to the redline and destroy it, the calcs and stuff is kind of irrelevant in comparison to that, just IMO.
 
Fair enough.

Oda used to care for better DC feats, now he reserves this stuff for huge finishers at best. The thing is, Oda isn't even caring anymore about good battle choreography or at least some decent stuff.
Not wrong, but nothing is stopping Oda from doing narrator exposition indicating large scale of destruction, when he has used the narrator to hype characters up before.
 
It's a statement clearly outlining Okiku's foot speed cap. The other dude tried to bring up a statement of characters unable to move at light speed in the Narutoverse, when we have statement talking about 200km/h being too much in the OPverse for a mid tier.

Also, like I said earlier, reaction speed is by far the most important stat. Jimbei proved he could low-mid diff someone who was easily faster than him in movement speed.
The difference is, Gazelleman is a fodder who isn't remotely a serious threat to any high tier when it comes to actual speed feats - or do you think Gazelleman outspeeds a Shishisonson? - while the LS teleportation is a legit thing in Naruto which had repeatedly shown to have serious restrains on characters when even the 3rd Raikage wouldn't go unscratched from using it. Ay and Tsunade were injured when they used the LS teleportation.

That being said, OP characters are not LS either but they definitely have the advantage when it comes to dealing with LS since there is Kizaru who moves and attacks with LS.
Iirc Juudara had one LS move which Sot6P Naruto effortlessly dodged but like I said, that's a god tier. I can't just arbitrarily gift Naruto high or top tiers Sot6P Naruto's speed feat.
 
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