Bougya Mihawk is the first OP character to split the sky
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What are you even trying to say? They don't have to be machines and talk about Haki 24/7, but it's something everyone should know about, except maybe extremely remote villages who are super ignorant. There are thousands of pirates in the new world with Haki, at the very least, and everyone has Haki power. When you have characters who were on pirate crews for 20 years, and they never hear about Haki, it's just nonsense.
Are you comparing Rayleigh not telling Luffy something in 15 minutes to Garp not telling Luffy something in 17 years, including when we know for a fact that Garp was training him?
This is pretty much all retarded. I guess your argument is that people talking about powers that make you obviously superhuman is something that people would somehow miss and never bring up? It would be one thing for people in foosha village to not know, but grandline pirates, who have fought new world pirates, not knowing is absolute nonsense. Rob Lucci as an intelligence agent doesn't know how to fight a logia 101, I guess? Some intelligence, huh. And obviously comparing it to sky islands is retarded, because the amount of people who can verify that is lower. With Haki, you have thousands of people who are users of it, and they go around commiting crimes. I guess when a globally famous pirate like Gold Roger,Kaido, Big Mom etc went around killing people, everyone missed that he he was using a special power, huh?
We saw him protecting Luffys village from pirates once, and you don't think any logia had ever attacked anywhere in the east blue in like, decades, lmfao? That's an insane take, if so.
Why would he specifically comment on how Ace isn't used to being hit in the new world? Once Oda actually intro's haki in the story, he makes a point to say that Logias get washed in the new world if they're overconfident. And Blackbeard would have no reason to make a big point about being able to harm Logias if he already could, obviously.
1. Ace has normal Haki, this has been confirmed somewhere iirc, but either way, he wasn't beating Kaido's rival and partner without it, nor tying with Jimebi. There's absolutely no reason for him to not use it against smoker, like not even the slightest bit of Haki to humble him?
2.Crocodile didn't use Haki against Luffy, or else he would have affected him with mere punches. Do you even know what Haki is, lol?
3. Mantra is just an example of Oda tying in several older concepts from the manga to Haki, not that it was always planned to be observation Haki.
What are you even talking about? Luffy loses to Smoker in Logue town, and he goes on to beat Crocodile in Alabasta, which is later on, and then Enel in Skypia, which is all after Smoker. If Oda had a planned weapon against Logia's, why not have Luffy learn it to use against Croco and Enel? Why wait for the time skip? We even had a character in Ace, who could have thought Luffy Haki in Alabasta, when Croco was present, and Ace could have demo'd it against Smoker.
and Luffy has never beaten Smoker anyway, has he? Sure, everyone else has, but this big narrative moment you're talking about didn't even happen.
Are you comparing Rayleigh not telling Luffy something in 15 minutes to Garp not telling Luffy something in 17 years, including when we know for a fact that Garp was training him?
This is pretty much all retarded. I guess your argument is that people talking about powers that make you obviously superhuman is something that people would somehow miss and never bring up? It would be one thing for people in foosha village to not know, but grandline pirates, who have fought new world pirates, not knowing is absolute nonsense. Rob Lucci as an intelligence agent doesn't know how to fight a logia 101, I guess? Some intelligence, huh. And obviously comparing it to sky islands is retarded, because the amount of people who can verify that is lower. With Haki, you have thousands of people who are users of it, and they go around commiting crimes. I guess when a globally famous pirate like Gold Roger,Kaido, Big Mom etc went around killing people, everyone missed that he he was using a special power, huh?
We saw him protecting Luffys village from pirates once, and you don't think any logia had ever attacked anywhere in the east blue in like, decades, lmfao? That's an insane take, if so.
Why would he specifically comment on how Ace isn't used to being hit in the new world? Once Oda actually intro's haki in the story, he makes a point to say that Logias get washed in the new world if they're overconfident. And Blackbeard would have no reason to make a big point about being able to harm Logias if he already could, obviously.
1. Ace has normal Haki, this has been confirmed somewhere iirc, but either way, he wasn't beating Kaido's rival and partner without it, nor tying with Jimebi. There's absolutely no reason for him to not use it against smoker, like not even the slightest bit of Haki to humble him?
2.Crocodile didn't use Haki against Luffy, or else he would have affected him with mere punches. Do you even know what Haki is, lol?
3. Mantra is just an example of Oda tying in several older concepts from the manga to Haki, not that it was always planned to be observation Haki.
What are you even talking about? Luffy loses to Smoker in Logue town, and he goes on to beat Crocodile in Alabasta, which is later on, and then Enel in Skypia, which is all after Smoker. If Oda had a planned weapon against Logia's, why not have Luffy learn it to use against Croco and Enel? Why wait for the time skip? We even had a character in Ace, who could have thought Luffy Haki in Alabasta, when Croco was present, and Ace could have demo'd it against Smoker.
and Luffy has never beaten Smoker anyway, has he? Sure, everyone else has, but this big narrative moment you're talking about didn't even happen.
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Absolutely not. I'm sorry but this is a worldbuilding basic. The OP world is not only large, but delimited geographically AND socially. The only ones who use haki are usually on sea or in the new world, there is absolutely no reason for the world to know about Haki. Most of the OP world only knows what the newspaper send them.
Dude, it's like saying there is a thousands of people on earth who know how to make a golden cake, it's absolutely NOTHING. The OP world is so much bigger than earth and so much wider. Really, it's normal that people don't know about Haki. 99,9% of people don't have to use it. And even in the rest, it's a skill that must be learned and understood. Think in term of worldbuilding, you make no sense.
Who are you talking about? Blackbeard? He knows about Haki. You are inventing stuff.
Yup, no matter the context, a character will not share everything just because. Little Luffy would not even use haki anyway and haki would not have helped Luffy in Sabaody. OP is a world of pirate with pirate mindset, knowledge and information is power. People just don't give it away like that.
Try to write a story, then you will understand genius. There is no point talking with you if you won't try to understand basic worldbuilding principles.
One day you will understand that the most important knowledge are ignored by 99% of the world. That's how reality works. Haki probably, exist, but for most people, it's probably much more of a legend than a fact.
No, it's the same things. Paradise pirates are as remoted from the strongest pirate than people in east blue are from paradise. You wouldn't have Bellamy laughing about a legend that is literally a reality above his head if that was not the case. The simple fact that Islands are separated by a sea with no real communications creates MASSIVE barriers to information. Again, basic worldbuilding.
Why do you think Lucci doesn't know about Haki?
Actually far less than that, and like I explained, it's pinuts in the OP world.
At best they would be instantly taken down by Garp and noone would raise question, simply because Garp is known as a hero. Really, there are no reason for East Blue people to know about Haki generally. Some people may use it, but it would be no point to developp it more, East Blue is rather peacefull and weak. Right now, you have take that negates the worldbuilding.
Because Ace was a cocky Logia. And Cocky logia are not used being hit. Simple.
Whish is exactly what happened with BlackBeard, just in paradise. Black beard being able to harm all devil fruit users is massively important because it means he doesn't require Haki to hurt Logia which is a strenght compared to other people. So yes, it was important to explain to a logia.
We don't know. He has conqueror, the rest is unconfirmed.
So you agree that Haki was a thing already in alabasta? Good.
Mantra is literally observation haki, in fact, Aisa develops a strong form of mantra, similar to Enel and Koby. Really, stop trying to analyze the story if you can't read it. You will have a hard time against me. It's literally haki, I don't know what you are trying to prove, but you have a comprehension issue here. FFS this fanbase...
Crocodile used distant technics and his hook, not his fist. But like I said, Haki is a scale, it's possible Luffy was too strong for Crocodile's haki. Tekkai technics are probably a form of soft haki too based on physical abilities.
Ok, so I'm talking to someone who never read or remember the manga.. ok.
> Read back chapter 100 please
Because it's too soon narratively. To make Luffy learn Haki would not only destroy the power system Oda was trying to build because Luffy would have a chance against admiral too soon, but it would push Oda to create something else for LUffy to become stronger during the timeskip. Which would not be reasonnable and would push the power ceiling too far.
Dude, it's like saying there is a thousands of people on earth who know how to make a golden cake, it's absolutely NOTHING. The OP world is so much bigger than earth and so much wider. Really, it's normal that people don't know about Haki. 99,9% of people don't have to use it. And even in the rest, it's a skill that must be learned and understood. Think in term of worldbuilding, you make no sense.
Who are you talking about? Blackbeard? He knows about Haki. You are inventing stuff.
Yup, no matter the context, a character will not share everything just because. Little Luffy would not even use haki anyway and haki would not have helped Luffy in Sabaody. OP is a world of pirate with pirate mindset, knowledge and information is power. People just don't give it away like that.
Try to write a story, then you will understand genius. There is no point talking with you if you won't try to understand basic worldbuilding principles.
One day you will understand that the most important knowledge are ignored by 99% of the world. That's how reality works. Haki probably, exist, but for most people, it's probably much more of a legend than a fact.
No, it's the same things. Paradise pirates are as remoted from the strongest pirate than people in east blue are from paradise. You wouldn't have Bellamy laughing about a legend that is literally a reality above his head if that was not the case. The simple fact that Islands are separated by a sea with no real communications creates MASSIVE barriers to information. Again, basic worldbuilding.
Why do you think Lucci doesn't know about Haki?
Actually far less than that, and like I explained, it's pinuts in the OP world.
At best they would be instantly taken down by Garp and noone would raise question, simply because Garp is known as a hero. Really, there are no reason for East Blue people to know about Haki generally. Some people may use it, but it would be no point to developp it more, East Blue is rather peacefull and weak. Right now, you have take that negates the worldbuilding.
Because Ace was a cocky Logia. And Cocky logia are not used being hit. Simple.
Whish is exactly what happened with BlackBeard, just in paradise. Black beard being able to harm all devil fruit users is massively important because it means he doesn't require Haki to hurt Logia which is a strenght compared to other people. So yes, it was important to explain to a logia.
We don't know. He has conqueror, the rest is unconfirmed.
So you agree that Haki was a thing already in alabasta? Good.
Mantra is literally observation haki, in fact, Aisa develops a strong form of mantra, similar to Enel and Koby. Really, stop trying to analyze the story if you can't read it. You will have a hard time against me. It's literally haki, I don't know what you are trying to prove, but you have a comprehension issue here. FFS this fanbase...
Crocodile used distant technics and his hook, not his fist. But like I said, Haki is a scale, it's possible Luffy was too strong for Crocodile's haki. Tekkai technics are probably a form of soft haki too based on physical abilities.
Ok, so I'm talking to someone who never read or remember the manga.. ok.
> Read back chapter 100 please
Because it's too soon narratively. To make Luffy learn Haki would not only destroy the power system Oda was trying to build because Luffy would have a chance against admiral too soon, but it would push Oda to create something else for LUffy to become stronger during the timeskip. Which would not be reasonnable and would push the power ceiling too far.
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God forbid Mihawk splits the heavens just by his presence, without even flexing his haki...
...the same haki that is the strongest in the world, the same haki that forged the strongest weapon in the world.
Just like I said, the copium gang played a game of feats against Zoro until Zoro reached the rooftop...
...and never again did that same gang use feats against Zoro. The same will happen with Mihawk and this sky split is just a start.
...the same haki that is the strongest in the world, the same haki that forged the strongest weapon in the world.
Just like I said, the copium gang played a game of feats against Zoro until Zoro reached the rooftop...
...and never again did that same gang use feats against Zoro. The same will happen with Mihawk and this sky split is just a start.
God forbid Mihawk splits the heavens just by his presence, without even flexing his haki...
...the same haki that is the strongest in the world, the same haki that forged the strongest weapon in the world.
Just like I said, the copium gang played a game of feats against Zoro until Zoro reached the rooftop...
...and never again did that same gang use feats against Zoro. The same will happen with Mihawk and this sky split is just a start.
...the same haki that is the strongest in the world, the same haki that forged the strongest weapon in the world.
Just like I said, the copium gang played a game of feats against Zoro until Zoro reached the rooftop...
...and never again did that same gang use feats against Zoro. The same will happen with Mihawk and this sky split is just a start.
Not necessarily. Perhaps not as connected as the modern world, but the OP world literally has projectors, Den Den mushis etc. The entire world was listening to Vegapunks speech. Before that, the entire world was hearing about the Marineford war, and in sabody people watched it. Btw, why did no one get confused that logias were being harmed in the Marineford war, and shanks stopped Akainu?
It's almost like characters in pre TS didn't know about Haki, because no one, including Oda knew about Armament Haki at that point, and now that Oda added it as a thing to the story, pretty much everyone knows about it, most likely even people in the east blue, who can read newspaper articles about Sabo(fire logia) fighting admirals, and not get shocked
Is Golden cake related to the global stability of our entire world, and infamous dangerous criminals who go around terrorizing the entire world? Is it a superhuman ability that shakes entire islands, and has been used to slaughter, thousands, if not maybe millions around the world. Btw, the OP world has never been stated to be bigger then our planet, this is head canon.
Retard, why is Blackbeard bragging about his fruit being able to harm Logias, something everyone can do in the new world?
Why the fuck is Blackbeard saying Logias think they're invincible, when he knows Ace would know he isn't since Ace fought JImbei and only tied, going on to fighting a sleeping WB and losing
Why the fuck is he bragging about being able to treat them like normal human beings, when he can already do that?
Why the fuck is he saying that punches and blades are something Ace can avoid, when Blackbeard could already have harmed Ace with Haki, as would most of the Wbp, or BBP?
Thankfully, Luffys grandpa isn't a pirate, so you can't use this retarded excuse. Garp was specifically training Luffy to be a marine, per the man himself, He threw him into the jungle etc, but missed out on the most important skill a marine should know. Why exactly?
Paradise pirates work for new world pirates............. like Bellamy is working under Doflamingo, lol. He and his friends also read about pirates and love looking at bounties. You have new world pirates returning to the grandline interacting with pirates there, and somehow the main power or one of the main powers of Gold Roger, WB, Bm, Kaido, Shanks, Admirals etc doesn't come up, because uh....
Oh yeah, there's no story reason except assuming that people in OP never talk about anything, ever. "Muh story" though.
The fact that Lucci pretty much never used Haki in pre TS, makes it pretty obvious he somehow wasn't familiar with it. And btw, the idea that civilians could dismiss basic science and assume that Garp could hurt Logias because he's called a hero is the dumbest thing i've seen about OP on the internet, maybe ever. Would civilians also not question if Garp betrayed other basic scientific principles and came back from the dead, because he's called a hero? What if he flew to the moon and flew back? At what point would they question literally anything? time travel?
He literally isn't. Cocky Logias go to the new world and get crushed by the likes of Pekoms. Ace was a major pirate in the new world and clashed with Jimbei for days, and fought with Kaidos partner. He obviously would be used to getting hit in the new world. This doesn't even need an explanation.
Ace and Blackbeard are physically in paradise sure.... but they literally know each other from the new world. They are new world pirates, Ace has been one since like, 2 years, and Blackbeard has been in the new world since like, 25 years ago or whatever..............
Oda didn't plan Haki in Alabasta, nor did he plan mantra to be called observation haki in Skypia. These are things he established later on, but if he had planned it, there's absolutely no reason to not show off Ace using Haki in Alabasta.
He uses his hook because Luffy can't be physically harmed by his punches, without Haki. If Croco had Haki, he could literally just punch Luffy instead of trying to poison him. And lmfao at base Luffy beating a skilled Haki user.
1.chapter 100 happens before Alabasta and Skypia, retard
2.Luffy learning Haki does not mean he would beat admirals, admirals can beat characters with Haki, low diff. And Oda didn't even let Luffy fight an admiral until he got advanced Haki, hundreds of chapters after he actually learned basic Haki. He didn't even let Luffy have a proper fight with Fujitora, instead waiting until fucking Egghead, which is like, 12 years into the time skip. There's absolutely no reason for Oda to hoop through justifications for Luffy beating Logias, if he had planned something that could easily deal with them
It's almost like characters in pre TS didn't know about Haki, because no one, including Oda knew about Armament Haki at that point, and now that Oda added it as a thing to the story, pretty much everyone knows about it, most likely even people in the east blue, who can read newspaper articles about Sabo(fire logia) fighting admirals, and not get shocked
Is Golden cake related to the global stability of our entire world, and infamous dangerous criminals who go around terrorizing the entire world? Is it a superhuman ability that shakes entire islands, and has been used to slaughter, thousands, if not maybe millions around the world. Btw, the OP world has never been stated to be bigger then our planet, this is head canon.
Retard, why is Blackbeard bragging about his fruit being able to harm Logias, something everyone can do in the new world?
Why the fuck is Blackbeard saying Logias think they're invincible, when he knows Ace would know he isn't since Ace fought JImbei and only tied, going on to fighting a sleeping WB and losing
Why the fuck is he bragging about being able to treat them like normal human beings, when he can already do that?
Why the fuck is he saying that punches and blades are something Ace can avoid, when Blackbeard could already have harmed Ace with Haki, as would most of the Wbp, or BBP?
Thankfully, Luffys grandpa isn't a pirate, so you can't use this retarded excuse. Garp was specifically training Luffy to be a marine, per the man himself, He threw him into the jungle etc, but missed out on the most important skill a marine should know. Why exactly?
Paradise pirates work for new world pirates............. like Bellamy is working under Doflamingo, lol. He and his friends also read about pirates and love looking at bounties. You have new world pirates returning to the grandline interacting with pirates there, and somehow the main power or one of the main powers of Gold Roger, WB, Bm, Kaido, Shanks, Admirals etc doesn't come up, because uh....
Oh yeah, there's no story reason except assuming that people in OP never talk about anything, ever. "Muh story" though.
The fact that Lucci pretty much never used Haki in pre TS, makes it pretty obvious he somehow wasn't familiar with it. And btw, the idea that civilians could dismiss basic science and assume that Garp could hurt Logias because he's called a hero is the dumbest thing i've seen about OP on the internet, maybe ever. Would civilians also not question if Garp betrayed other basic scientific principles and came back from the dead, because he's called a hero? What if he flew to the moon and flew back? At what point would they question literally anything? time travel?
He literally isn't. Cocky Logias go to the new world and get crushed by the likes of Pekoms. Ace was a major pirate in the new world and clashed with Jimbei for days, and fought with Kaidos partner. He obviously would be used to getting hit in the new world. This doesn't even need an explanation.
Ace and Blackbeard are physically in paradise sure.... but they literally know each other from the new world. They are new world pirates, Ace has been one since like, 2 years, and Blackbeard has been in the new world since like, 25 years ago or whatever..............
Oda didn't plan Haki in Alabasta, nor did he plan mantra to be called observation haki in Skypia. These are things he established later on, but if he had planned it, there's absolutely no reason to not show off Ace using Haki in Alabasta.
He uses his hook because Luffy can't be physically harmed by his punches, without Haki. If Croco had Haki, he could literally just punch Luffy instead of trying to poison him. And lmfao at base Luffy beating a skilled Haki user.
1.chapter 100 happens before Alabasta and Skypia, retard
2.Luffy learning Haki does not mean he would beat admirals, admirals can beat characters with Haki, low diff. And Oda didn't even let Luffy fight an admiral until he got advanced Haki, hundreds of chapters after he actually learned basic Haki. He didn't even let Luffy have a proper fight with Fujitora, instead waiting until fucking Egghead, which is like, 12 years into the time skip. There's absolutely no reason for Oda to hoop through justifications for Luffy beating Logias, if he had planned something that could easily deal with them
Not necessarily. Perhaps not as connected as the modern world, but the OP world literally has projectors, Den Den mushis etc. The entire world was listening to Vegapunks speech. Before that, the entire world was hearing about the Marineford war, and in sabody people watched it. Btw, why did no one get confused that logias were being harmed in the Marineford war, and shanks stopped Akainu?
It's almost like characters in pre TS didn't know about Haki, because no one, including Oda knew about Armament Haki at that point, and now that Oda added it as a thing to the story, pretty much everyone knows about it, most likely even people in the east blue, who can read newspaper articles about Sabo(fire logia) fighting admirals, and not get shocked
Is Golden cake related to the global stability of our entire world, and infamous dangerous criminals who go around terrorizing the entire world? Is it a superhuman ability that shakes entire islands, and has been used to slaughter, thousands, if not maybe millions around the world. Btw, the OP world has never been stated to be bigger then our planet, this is head canon.
Retard, why is Blackbeard bragging about his fruit being able to harm Logias, something everyone can do in the new world?
Why the fuck is Blackbeard saying Logias think they're invincible, when he knows Ace would know he isn't since Ace fought JImbei and only tied, going on to fighting a sleeping WB and losing
Why the fuck is he bragging about being able to treat them like normal human beings, when he can already do that?
Why the fuck is he saying that punches and blades are something Ace can avoid, when Blackbeard could already have harmed Ace with Haki, as would most of the Wbp, or BBP?
Thankfully, Luffys grandpa isn't a pirate, so you can't use this retarded excuse. Garp was specifically training Luffy to be a marine, per the man himself, He threw him into the jungle etc, but missed out on the most important skill a marine should know. Why exactly?
Paradise pirates work for new world pirates............. like Bellamy is working under Doflamingo, lol. He and his friends also read about pirates and love looking at bounties. You have new world pirates returning to the grandline interacting with pirates there, and somehow the main power or one of the main powers of Gold Roger, WB, Bm, Kaido, Shanks, Admirals etc doesn't come up, because uh....
Oh yeah, there's no story reason except assuming that people in OP never talk about anything, ever. "Muh story" though.
The fact that Lucci pretty much never used Haki in pre TS, makes it pretty obvious he somehow wasn't familiar with it. And btw, the idea that civilians could dismiss basic science and assume that Garp could hurt Logias because he's called a hero is the dumbest thing i've seen about OP on the internet, maybe ever. Would civilians also not question if Garp betrayed other basic scientific principles and came back from the dead, because he's called a hero? What if he flew to the moon and flew back? At what point would they question literally anything? time travel?
He literally isn't. Cocky Logias go to the new world and get crushed by the likes of Pekoms. Ace was a major pirate in the new world and clashed with Jimbei for days, and fought with Kaidos partner. He obviously would be used to getting hit in the new world. This doesn't even need an explanation.
Ace and Blackbeard are physically in paradise sure.... but they literally know each other from the new world. They are new world pirates, Ace has been one since like, 2 years, and Blackbeard has been in the new world since like, 25 years ago or whatever..............
Oda didn't plan Haki in Alabasta, nor did he plan mantra to be called observation haki in Skypia. These are things he established later on, but if he had planned it, there's absolutely no reason to not show off Ace using Haki in Alabasta.
He uses his hook because Luffy can't be physically harmed by his punches, without Haki. If Croco had Haki, he could literally just punch Luffy instead of trying to poison him. And lmfao at base Luffy beating a skilled Haki user.
1.chapter 100 happens before Alabasta and Skypia, retard
2.Luffy learning Haki does not mean he would beat admirals, admirals can beat characters with Haki, low diff. And Oda didn't even let Luffy fight an admiral until he got advanced Haki, hundreds of chapters after he actually learned basic Haki. He didn't even let Luffy have a proper fight with Fujitora, instead waiting until fucking Egghead, which is like, 12 years into the time skip. There's absolutely no reason for Oda to hoop through justifications for Luffy beating Logias, if he had planned something that could easily deal with them
It's almost like characters in pre TS didn't know about Haki, because no one, including Oda knew about Armament Haki at that point, and now that Oda added it as a thing to the story, pretty much everyone knows about it, most likely even people in the east blue, who can read newspaper articles about Sabo(fire logia) fighting admirals, and not get shocked
Is Golden cake related to the global stability of our entire world, and infamous dangerous criminals who go around terrorizing the entire world? Is it a superhuman ability that shakes entire islands, and has been used to slaughter, thousands, if not maybe millions around the world. Btw, the OP world has never been stated to be bigger then our planet, this is head canon.
Retard, why is Blackbeard bragging about his fruit being able to harm Logias, something everyone can do in the new world?
Why the fuck is Blackbeard saying Logias think they're invincible, when he knows Ace would know he isn't since Ace fought JImbei and only tied, going on to fighting a sleeping WB and losing
Why the fuck is he bragging about being able to treat them like normal human beings, when he can already do that?
Why the fuck is he saying that punches and blades are something Ace can avoid, when Blackbeard could already have harmed Ace with Haki, as would most of the Wbp, or BBP?
Thankfully, Luffys grandpa isn't a pirate, so you can't use this retarded excuse. Garp was specifically training Luffy to be a marine, per the man himself, He threw him into the jungle etc, but missed out on the most important skill a marine should know. Why exactly?
Paradise pirates work for new world pirates............. like Bellamy is working under Doflamingo, lol. He and his friends also read about pirates and love looking at bounties. You have new world pirates returning to the grandline interacting with pirates there, and somehow the main power or one of the main powers of Gold Roger, WB, Bm, Kaido, Shanks, Admirals etc doesn't come up, because uh....
Oh yeah, there's no story reason except assuming that people in OP never talk about anything, ever. "Muh story" though.
The fact that Lucci pretty much never used Haki in pre TS, makes it pretty obvious he somehow wasn't familiar with it. And btw, the idea that civilians could dismiss basic science and assume that Garp could hurt Logias because he's called a hero is the dumbest thing i've seen about OP on the internet, maybe ever. Would civilians also not question if Garp betrayed other basic scientific principles and came back from the dead, because he's called a hero? What if he flew to the moon and flew back? At what point would they question literally anything? time travel?
He literally isn't. Cocky Logias go to the new world and get crushed by the likes of Pekoms. Ace was a major pirate in the new world and clashed with Jimbei for days, and fought with Kaidos partner. He obviously would be used to getting hit in the new world. This doesn't even need an explanation.
Ace and Blackbeard are physically in paradise sure.... but they literally know each other from the new world. They are new world pirates, Ace has been one since like, 2 years, and Blackbeard has been in the new world since like, 25 years ago or whatever..............
Oda didn't plan Haki in Alabasta, nor did he plan mantra to be called observation haki in Skypia. These are things he established later on, but if he had planned it, there's absolutely no reason to not show off Ace using Haki in Alabasta.
He uses his hook because Luffy can't be physically harmed by his punches, without Haki. If Croco had Haki, he could literally just punch Luffy instead of trying to poison him. And lmfao at base Luffy beating a skilled Haki user.
1.chapter 100 happens before Alabasta and Skypia, retard
2.Luffy learning Haki does not mean he would beat admirals, admirals can beat characters with Haki, low diff. And Oda didn't even let Luffy fight an admiral until he got advanced Haki, hundreds of chapters after he actually learned basic Haki. He didn't even let Luffy have a proper fight with Fujitora, instead waiting until fucking Egghead, which is like, 12 years into the time skip. There's absolutely no reason for Oda to hoop through justifications for Luffy beating Logias, if he had planned something that could easily deal with them
Let me put you on hold. That's too much for my motivation at the moment. I'm calling you back (or not 'will see)
Am I really gonna waste my time here?
Let me put you on hold. That's too much for my motivation at the moment. I'm calling you back (or not 'will see)
Let me put you on hold. That's too much for my motivation at the moment. I'm calling you back (or not 'will see)
Yes, it is, but do not compare character glaring at enemies after they completly cut them in piece so they run the tail between the leg, and shanks having half an arm and deliberately creating a moment to scare the enemy to the point of making it run in fear. OP popularized this trope. And in any case, it is haki, it was confirmed as haki. So there are no discussions here to be had.
I'm afraid that you can look at a drawing and see the difference between a strong wind strike and a coc user cutting open the sky
I'm afraid that you can look at a drawing and see the difference between a strong wind strike and a coc user cutting open the sky
